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Fraternity in racist video has roots in pre-Civil War Deep South where members opposed [tr]
AP and UK Daily Mail ^ | March 11, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 03/11/2015 1:48:41 PM PDT by C19fan

Sigma Alpha Epsilon, the fraternity at the center of the racist University of Oklahoma video, has its roots in the pre-Civil War Deep South. 'We came up from Dixie land,' says a ditty from an old songbook, boasting about SAE's success. Now, nearly 160 years after its founding at the University of Alabama, another song - this one chanted by members of the frat's University of Oklahoma chapter and containing racial slurs and lynching references - hearkens back to the bad old times in the land of cotton and puts a new spotlight on the group's activities over the years. SAE officials insist the chant is neither a sanctioned song nor is it taught to fraternity members.

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: fraternity; sigma
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You know the Northeast Corridor and West Coast Clerisy will be working 24/7 to make SAE grovel. The fact that this institution dates to the Antebellum South means it has bulls eye on its back. Never let a crisis go to waste.
1 posted on 03/11/2015 1:48:41 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

The Brits never tire of rubbing our noses in the “negro problem” even though they did the same for centuries, the ships transporting them were mostly theirs and we were their colonies when it originated.


2 posted on 03/11/2015 1:52:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: C19fan

Anyone in the press found Obama’s college transcripts yet?


3 posted on 03/11/2015 1:52:48 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They like to deny their role in slavery I’ve noticed.


4 posted on 03/11/2015 1:57:25 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: C19fan

Phi Alpha


5 posted on 03/11/2015 1:57:42 PM PDT by Overwatcher
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To: C19fan

They’re really harping on the frats and sororities these days. Somebody didn’t make the cut, methinks.


6 posted on 03/11/2015 1:59:33 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: C19fan

So does the Democrat Party.


7 posted on 03/11/2015 2:02:58 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (!)
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To: rockrr

The fraternity claims its founder was the first person to die in the Civil War because he tripped or slipped getting onto a steamer and was washed away and drowned. This happened some months before Fort Sumter was attacked but after Alabama seceded from the Union.


8 posted on 03/11/2015 2:04:01 PM PDT by x
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I dunno, the mother of a couple of them (my neighbor) told me that SAE stands for “Sleepers And Eaters”.


9 posted on 03/11/2015 2:08:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh come on, what’s next? Are you going to point out that Africans Have been holding their fellow man in slavery since the beginning of recorded history?
or are you going to tell everyone that Africans Held Whites in Slavery to build all those pyramids.
Are you going to tell us about how Africans continue today to hold their fellow man as slaves and have regular auctions of slaves?

This could intentionally damage the highly coveted self esteem of a whole lot of hyphenated Americans.


10 posted on 03/11/2015 2:08:55 PM PDT by eyeamok
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I joined Reagan’s fraternity in ‘83. We didn’t have any off-color ditties, unless you count references to Lambda Chi and Sigma Chi.

Imagine if this had been Kappa Alpha...


11 posted on 03/11/2015 2:12:07 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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I recall from my days at UGA during the mid-1970’s that 2 social fraternities, KA and SAE, held spring week-long celebrations and formal balls called “Old Home Week.” The guys would wear formal Confederate Army uniforms for some of the events while their dates wore ante-bellum formal dresses. They had a reputation for partying hardy and celebrating the “Lost Cause.” By 1980 the university’s marching band known as the “Dixie Redcoat Marching Band” since the early civil rights days of the 1950s, had dropped the descriptor “Dixie.”


12 posted on 03/11/2015 2:13:33 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: C19fan

WORLDWIDE NEWS!!!! This story has legs like Earl Campbell.

It won’t die for some time.


13 posted on 03/11/2015 2:13:58 PM PDT by roofgoat
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Did these SAEs spit in the food or drink of blacks as Jesse Jackson did with whites? Did they egg on the burning of black property like Al Sharpton did with Freddie’s Fashion Mart? Yes, I’m speaking of the Jackson and Sharpton that the Associated Propagandists don’t have an issue with.


14 posted on 03/11/2015 2:17:46 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Nobody seems to have asked or answered this one question:

Is the song true?

“There has never been a N***** SAE”

Is that true....no blacks have ever been members?


15 posted on 03/11/2015 2:37:57 PM PDT by lacrew
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Here’s another dumb chant that doesn’t seem to bother the lefties:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUezKsBCRbk


16 posted on 03/11/2015 2:41:16 PM PDT by lacrew
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There was an African-American in the chapter 14 years ago. None since. There was a thread yesterday.


17 posted on 03/11/2015 2:41:23 PM PDT by x
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They show blacks on their website.

http://www.sae.net/

(Scroll down)

.


18 posted on 03/11/2015 2:44:03 PM PDT by Mears (To learn, who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."Voltaire))
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Phi Alpha

Utah Upsilon
1960 Badge #107997

So flame away. I loved those days.


19 posted on 03/11/2015 3:26:40 PM PDT by Utah Binger (To keep order in Orderville everyone pulls his own weight.)
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To: Overwatcher

Phi Alpha.


20 posted on 03/11/2015 4:02:00 PM PDT by Tudorfly
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