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USS Ranger leaving Puget Sound for Texas scrap yard
KOMO TV (Seattle) News ^ | 3/4/2015 | Jon Humbert

Posted on 03/04/2015 5:39:45 PM PST by llevrok

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To: microgood

That’s true but copper prices are way way down. Funny though, if the economy was going so spectacular copper prices and oil prices would be flying. hmm wander when the collapse is gonna happen


21 posted on 03/04/2015 6:22:48 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: faithhopecharity

That was part of the reason that Ranger was kept in reserve as long as she was. But ships rot, even steel ones. Machinery gets way out of date, and must be maintained at certain minimal levels just so that they can be brought back into working condition in a reasonable period of time.

Then you have the physical limitations of the design itself. Catapaults that can’t launch the heaviest of modern aircraft. Arresting wire systems that have the similar problems and so forth.

Finally, these ships get scavanged for parts to keep their sisters in a higher state of readiness. So after a decade or so in reserve, they are little more than hulls.


22 posted on 03/04/2015 6:26:54 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

What u say is true but machine and engines are so easy to get going and turn over.


23 posted on 03/04/2015 6:39:51 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Why don’t they just sink it in a very deep part of the Pacific? Is it worth that much as scrap?

She would have to be decontaminated, all the paint, chemical residues, toxics, metals, plastics, etc. removed before that.

Sometimes worth doing to make an artificial reef, sometimes better to scrap.

Always a judgement call.

24 posted on 03/04/2015 7:06:07 PM PST by null and void ( If race doesn't matter, why does it matter so much?)
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To: knarf
I was stationed aboard the USS Bennington CVS-20 from 1968-1970. It took me halfway around the world and brought me back.

I made many friends and had many experiences that I will never forget.

I don't know why but you get attached to a ship. It's like your home for the period you are stationed aboard.

They towed the “Benny” over to India and it was chopped up in 1995. I was very sad to hear they had scrapped her. It's like losing an old friend.

25 posted on 03/04/2015 7:07:00 PM PST by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: Know et al
That's what I meant by a sailor or airman having slept in, or sat in ... a ship or plane

I was just reminded by 2ndDivisionVet of my old company in Korea

He posted a picture of the front gate and I have been in fantasy land for the last 45 minutes

My mind's eye went down and around the corner and I passed Sgt Spangler in the supply shack .... a little farther past the mess hall ... took a left and walked into my quonset hut and stared at my bunk

I just did that ... amazingly weird and wonderful

26 posted on 03/04/2015 7:16:21 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true)
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To: Nowhere Man

Back around 1953, Daddy drove us out to the Panama City airport just for something to do. I guess we didn’t require much entertainment back then.

Anyway there was a constellation parked close to the fence. It was an awesome sight to a six year old. those three vertical stabilizers seemed like something out of science fiction.


27 posted on 03/04/2015 7:17:15 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: llevrok

I wonder why they are scrapping it instead of using it to build an artificial reef, like the Oriskany? The value of doing that is that it continues to support the US Navy indirectly, because it attracts scuba divers; it acts as a very large fish hatchery, which supports the fishing industry; and it even directly supports US Navy training.


28 posted on 03/04/2015 7:18:21 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: onedoug

ping


29 posted on 03/04/2015 7:19:06 PM PST by windcliff
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To: llevrok

That’s got to be a very sad trip.I wonder how much “crew” it takes to do this.


30 posted on 03/04/2015 7:57:26 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: microgood

“I will bet there is are tons and tons of copper on that ship. All those t-400 cables, bus bars, generators, etc.”

Unfortunately, there’s also pantloads of asbestos. It will cost the scrapper a great deal of money to GET the copper.


31 posted on 03/04/2015 7:59:32 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: al baby

“Homeless drug addict bastards would have it stripped by dawn”

LOL


32 posted on 03/04/2015 8:01:07 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I served for a Year on Ranger, then off to Air Crew Candidate... next stop 4 years on USS Kitty Hawk... it was like Dejavou (sp) all over again ...

Great Memories, I miss the adventures of Youth, 4 of my 6 deployments were on those 2 ships.

TT

(USS George K MacKenzie DD836 for the other 2 deployments)


33 posted on 03/04/2015 8:34:18 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
RIP old gal, you served your country well!!

She sure did!

She was also on station for space capsule recoveries. Iconic in so many ways.

Thank you and thanks to all the others who served aboard her.

34 posted on 03/04/2015 9:00:05 PM PST by llevrok (I fear the US government more than I do al Qaeda)
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To: Tallguy

With pieces and parts as large as they are on a Carrier, just Gravity will degrade the system ... you actually have to see how huge some of the components are to believe it. The shafts “MUST” be turned or gravity will bend them.

One of the things that I love about my Military is that we have affection for our Weapon / Home. On an Aircraft Carrier we even acknowledge the Air Wing when they come to visit /stay with us.

TT


35 posted on 03/04/2015 9:03:12 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

“Why don’t they just sink it in a very deep part of the Pacific? Is it worth that much as scrap?”

Yeah, they’re worth a fortune in scrap. Not just steel, but tons of brass and copper and other things.

These big boys are scrapped at a shipbreaking facility in Brownsville, TX. There was a brief TV series showing the dismantling process for scrapping train locomotives, jet fighters, tanks, and ships. Unbelievably fascinating.


36 posted on 03/04/2015 9:25:28 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: llevrok
USS Ranger CV/CVA-61

' she served extensively in the Pacific, especially the Vietnam War, for which she earned 13 battle stars.'

Farewell Ranger you served your crews well....

I say sink her in deep water in the Tonkin Gulf near those she fought to protect.....

37 posted on 03/04/2015 9:28:25 PM PST by virgil283 (..You can't correct past wrongs by repeating them with the roles reversed)
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To: Tallguy

Thank you. Yes I can understand that there can be reasons to scrap a ship.

I just thought that some of them could be useful, if no longer in front line defense situations, then in back field or non-military applications.

but anyway i was just trying to make a general statement and I do not know about the specific situation with the Ranger ...
it may have been ready for melting down.

I had a car with 318000 miles still running just FINE and I planned to keep it as long as it was safe. But some doped up freak ran a red light and smashed it to smithereens.


38 posted on 03/04/2015 10:33:57 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Undecided 2012

if the USN sells a billion dollar ship for $1, you can bet SOMEONE is making a good profit off the deal... yes, not the Navy

but someone.


39 posted on 03/04/2015 10:34:52 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: llevrok

A ship is not just a hunk of steel sitting in the water. It has a soul, the soul of a great lady. SHE has a heart, and anyone who served on her is a part of her. I am a part of three ships; USS Nimitz (CVN-68), USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69).

For six months after decommissioning, USS John F. Kennedy was tied up at a pier here at Norfolk Naval Station. As I work on the ships I had to see it on a daily basis and I felt like a little of me was dying when looking at Kennedy.

I also had the opportunity to go on board USS Enterprise (CVN-65) just prior to her decommissioning to remove some equipment. To me it was sad watching a ship die.

I’ve also toured the USS Yorktown (CV-10) in Charleston. It’s the creepiest place I’ve ever been. Below decks, no sound but your own footsteps.

All together I served 10 years on MY three ships, lived 24/7 on the first two (got married between JFK and Ike). I love those ships, and I love my Navy.


40 posted on 03/05/2015 6:31:10 AM PST by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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