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To: Swordmaker
Wow, I must have hit a real nerve there... I haven't seen this much anger and vitriol since twenty minutes ago when I ran across a religious thread with all the Catholic-bashers!

Do you know how ignorant and idiotic you are coming across?

Making disparaging remarks about Macs to a fanboy? I'm sure I'm the most idiotic, most ignorant person ever! But if that's wrong, please, enlighten me!

Macs can only support 1080 degraded to 720? Where did you get that gem?

Ha, where did you get that gem? I said nothing of the sort, I think you need to sit back, have a beer, and work on your reading comprehension. I said that we have gear that can't handle a 1080 signal, so we have to drop it to 720, or 1600x900 (usually 720 since it's just more common). So when you run 720 through your entire production, for the best signal quality you want all your sources to have the same resolution you run to outputs. Which means all laptops need to be set to 720. And a native 720 will look cleaner than a 1080 downscaled to 720, that's just the fact of compression. I don't really care if any of them can output 4k, we DON'T USE IT. The highest resolution we use is 1080 if all the gear on the show supports it. Otherwise, everything is usually run in 720.

...and you claim they can't do better resolution than 720????? The new iMac has a TRUE 5K screen built in, you idiot. That's 5120 x 2880 and YOU are blithering about Macs not being able to do 720????

Sigh. Reading comprehension. I said Macs can do 1080, so I don't know how you get me saying they can't do better than 720. From the part of my post that you even excerpted: But like I said, you don't always have EDID, and the only 16:9 resolution a Mac can do is 1080. I apologize if by saying 'can do' confused you, I meant that as the resolutions they naturally have, not what EDID or ScreenResX can add. I don't care AT ALL what resolution the built-in screen can do. That does nothing for me when I'm using the extended desktop as my live screen. Which, as I mentioned above, I want to be set to 720.

But congratulations, you have a Mac that has a wide variety of resolutions available. Many Macs don't. They'll have some basic 4:3 ones, a couple 16:10 ones, and 1920x1080 as the only 16:9 resolution. 1280x720 is not an option. They will have 1280x800, but that's not what I'm looking for.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that Apple's are used regularly in video and other movie work.

YOU seem to be completely oblivious to half of what I posted. I am using the Macs for video playback (PlaybackPro Plus), I am a video engineer and this is what I do. The only reason people used to buy Macs was for one of two things: you had too much money and bought one as a status symbol cause it's hip and cool, or two, you were in the world of video editing which Macs have really ruled until the last couple years.

As i stated, Apple includes whatever adaptors required to hook up to Industry standard Monitors with their computers.

Really? Who's the idiot troll now? If I go to Apple's website, they specifically state that the adaptors DO NOT come with the Macs. If yours did, well lucky you, you got a bonus. So here, I'll post some info straight from Apple.com for you. Note, neither one has a scaled 720 resolution listed!

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/

13-inch:
Native resolution: 2560 by 1600 pixels (Retina); scaled resolutions: 1680 by 1050, 1440 by 900, and 1024 by 640 pixels

15-inch:
Native resolution: 2880 by 1800 pixels (Retina); scaled resolutions: 1920 by 1200, 1680 by 1050, 1280 by 800, and 1024 by 640 pixels

Thunderbolt digital video output
Native Mini DisplayPort output
DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (sold separately)
VGA output using Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter (sold separately)
Dual-link DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (sold separately)


Not a joke since at least 2000, as if you knew anything at all about Macs, you just went to system preferences and turned the second button on. Navigating the file system is easy. . . easier than Windows. The structure is essentially the same, but more flexible. It is UNIX™. As to the User Interface, you just are used to Windows. Most people who bother to take the time to learn the Mac find it a lot easier to use than Windows.

I know Jobs accepted the need for two buttons, that why that was a joke about their mice only having one. Only the old ones did. And no, the file system opens a new section of the window each time you navigate into a directory, instead of just showing the contents of that dir. you end up with a long tree stretching the whole of your window for files that are buried deep in several folders. Structure is the same, but the visual application in Macs is annoying. I don't like the dock, my old Dell had the same thing, it was extremely annoying, so I turned it off. A regular start menu is just fine (and yes, I do hate MS's new gay Metro thing. Absolutely retarded), no reason to change things just to make it more difficult for people used to Windows. I have experience with a couple versions of Linux (dual-boot set on both my laptops), and they are much closer to the Windows gui than to any Mac I've seen.
145 posted on 02/22/2015 8:03:17 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar
Ha, where did you get that gem? I said nothing of the sort, I think you need to sit back, have a beer, and work on your reading comprehension. I said that we have gear that can't handle a 1080 signal, so we have to drop it to 720, or 1600x900 (usually 720 since it's just more common). So when you run 720 through your entire production, for the best signal quality you want all your sources to have the same resolution you run to outputs. Which means all laptops need to be set to 720. And a native 720 will look cleaner than a 1080 downscaled to 720, that's just the fact of compression. I don't really care if any of them can output 4k, we DON'T USE IT. The highest resolution we use is 1080 if all the gear on the show supports it. Otherwise, everything is usually run in 720.

I'm sorry, but I seem to have assumed that you understood that a Mac can output more than just the resolution of what you see on the screen through the video ports. . . but apparently you think Macs can only duplicate or mirror the resolutions of the Mac's built in screens. . . nothing could be further from the truth. ANY Mac can out put any of the screen resolutions you seem to think are not possible to a Mac. Macs are used in High Definition Video production all the time. . . but you seem to be blissfully unaware of that fact.

I think I was right when I said you don't know Macs.

146 posted on 02/22/2015 10:58:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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