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Motor Fuel Lawsuit
MOTOR FUEL TEMPERATURE SALES PRACTICES LITIGATION SETTLEMENT ^ | 1-16-15 | me

Posted on 02/16/2015 9:51:12 AM PST by Paul46360

"Persons or entities that purchased gasoline or diesel fuel (“Plaintiffs”) on or after January 1, 2001, in the following States and jurisdictions –– Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, D.C., Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands (the “States at Issue”) – brought lawsuits claiming that selling motor fuel without disclosing or adjusting for the effects of temperature violates consumer protection and other laws. All of the cases relating to the States at Issue and all of the Companies are consolidated in a multidistrict proceeding titled In re: Motor Fuel Temperature Sales Practices Litigation, MDL No. 1840, which is before the United States District Court for the District of Kansas (the “Court”)."

(Excerpt) Read more at hotfuelsettlements.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: fuel; gas; lawsuit; litigation
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1 posted on 02/16/2015 9:51:12 AM PST by Paul46360
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They’ve already sued over the issue of two-by-fours not actually having a cross section of 2”x4”.


2 posted on 02/16/2015 9:53:24 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Paul46360

Another damned class action suit that benefits the shyster bastards that ginned it up, and no one else.


3 posted on 02/16/2015 9:53:34 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Paul46360

Oil companies don’t control after refinery storage or gas station pumps.


4 posted on 02/16/2015 9:55:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Steely Tom

>> They’ve already sued over the issue of two-by-fours not actually having a cross section of 2”x4”.

Wouldn’t it be fun to cut a three foot (that’s 24.000”) piece of 2x4 — oops, I mean 1 7/8 x 3 5/8 — and beat the shysters black and blue with it?


5 posted on 02/16/2015 9:55:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Make that 36.000”, not 24.


6 posted on 02/16/2015 9:57:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I sprained my brain trying to interpret that headline.


7 posted on 02/16/2015 9:58:20 AM PST by sparklite2
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To: Nervous Tick

Different jurisdictions and different vendors have addressed this issue differently. Some just paste an advisory label on the pump. Some have compensators that adjust the indicated dispensed volume to what it would be at a standard reference temperature. (If the fuel is very cold, this indicated dispensed volume will be more, not less, than what was physically delivered.) It is a valid question; why it needed a lawsuit to resolve it I do not know. Maybe it was believed adequate that on average throughout the year, more fuel was dispensed than was charged for, even though on a given (hot) day, less might be.


8 posted on 02/16/2015 9:58:54 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They do license their brands to fuel stations.


9 posted on 02/16/2015 9:59:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sparklite2

>> I sprained my brain trying to interpret that headline.

That just ain’t right. Why, you should get you a lawyer ‘n SUE!!!


10 posted on 02/16/2015 10:00:33 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Steely Tom
They’ve already sued over the issue of two-by-fours not actually having a cross section of 2”x4”.

Early standards called for green rough lumber to be of full nominal dimension when dry. However, the dimensions have diminished over time. In 1910, a typical finished 1-inch- (25 mm) board was 13⁄16 in (21 mm). In 1928, that was reduced by 4%, and yet again by 4% in 1956. In 1961, at a meeting in Scottsdale, Arizona, the Committee on Grade Simplification and Standardization agreed to what is now the current U.S. standard: in part, the dressed size of a 1 inch (nominal) board was fixed at 3⁄4 inch; while the dressed size of 2 inch (nominal) lumber was reduced from 1 5⁄8 inch to the current 1 1⁄2 inch.[9]

I learned that in junior high, and it's been a while but it seems to me that the actual dimensions for lumber are posted in the descriptions.

11 posted on 02/16/2015 10:03:42 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Paul46360

Unless they have heaters in the gas pumps at the station, this really isn’t a problem.


12 posted on 02/16/2015 10:04:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is a bogus issue.

Gasoline is stored below ground and so the temperature does not vary much through the year.

Propane which is stored above ground has a temperature compensated meter.

13 posted on 02/16/2015 10:05:12 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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I could buy an argument that it was bogus except that we are talking about below ground temperatures across all seasons and territories. They do vary, and the coefficient of expansion of liquid hydrocarbons is significant.


14 posted on 02/16/2015 10:07:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Bad news. The size is down to 3 1/2 x 1 1/2. As long as it holds up the walls of a McMansion, who cares?


15 posted on 02/16/2015 10:09:16 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: Paul46360

The suit, the story and so far the discussion is completely missing the point.

You purchase fuel by the gallon. When it is measured by the gallon and priced by the gallon, you have not been cheated. You got what you paid for.

Now if you want to claim that hot fuel has less energy per gallon, then you have to buy and measure fuel by the pound.

And it is true that your tank full of hot fuel has less energy than a tank full of cold fuel.

But then you have to find someone who prices fuel by the pound.


16 posted on 02/16/2015 10:09:28 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: jonascord

Instead of a quarter pounder it is a 3/16 pounder.


17 posted on 02/16/2015 10:12:25 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: old curmudgeon

Some places have gotten around this by simply posting advisories on fuel pumps. Still, we have a valid question of equity here in respect to value received.


18 posted on 02/16/2015 10:13:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Paul46360

Park your car in the sunlight.


19 posted on 02/16/2015 10:16:24 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

But warming your own fuel does not make your fuel go further, unfortunately.


20 posted on 02/16/2015 10:18:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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