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Real numbers for both igadgets and Androids. Trade in value etc.

106 posted on 02/09/2015 9:01:26 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Real numbers for both igadgets and Androids. Trade in value etc.

Your Phone Loses Value Pretty Fast (Unless It's an iPhone)
Feb 08, 2012 | Permalink

- Joshua Topolsky [strenuously disagreeing with Siegler’s position] The empirical facts are in, and the iPhone is wiping the floor with Android and BlackBerry in terms of resale value.

At Priceonomics, we firmly believe that resale value is the best objective indicator of product quality. If you wanted to figure out the best cell phone, you could look at all the reviews, test out all the phones, talk to all the experts, but still your assessment will be subjective. Or you could let the market tell you which phones are the highest quality by seeing which ones best retain their value over time.

Priceonomics phone pricing data strongly indicates that Apple phones are a better value than smartphones on other platforms. The market has spoken, and Android and Blackberrys do not age well.

Priceonomics Cell Phone Depreciation & Resale Rankings

Car buyers know that depreciation matters. Some cars lose much of their value the second you drive them off the lot. Others cars you can sell after a few years and recoup most of your initial payment. Cars with high resale value have strong demand, high reliability, and happy owners. A high resale value is the market telling you, “this is a good car.”

Because Priceonomics has built the first price guide for used phones, it is now possible to measure phone resale value and depreciation to see what the market suggests are the best phones. We measure depreciation by comparing a phone’s current used price to its new price (without a contract) the day it was released. We examined all iPhone models and the 70 most popular Androids and 30 most popular BlackBerry models. We split phones into five different cohorts (newly released, 1, 2, 3, and 4 year-old phones). We then calculated which phones had the best resale by cohort, as well as which platforms in aggregate tended to retain their value the most.

The highest quality phones should have the best resale values over time and crappier phones should depreciate the fastest. The evidence is clear - the winner is the iPhone.

After using your iPhone for 18 months, it still retains 53% versus 42% for Android, and 41% for BlackBerry. That’s $312 of cash value if you resell your old iPhone on eBay or Craigslist. iPhones have a reputation for being premium products, while Androids have a more democratic marketing angle (BlackBerry’s consumer marketing angle appears to be indecipherable). In fact, the cost of ownership of an iPhone is the lowest of all platforms:

The iPhone hardware only costs you $13.20 per month if you resell it at the end of 18 months. Android phones cost 40% more. Either one seems like a deal compared to a monthly cell phone bill!

Be careful before you drive that Android phone off the lot

Cell phones don’t depreciate linearly over time. They lose a lot of value right away and then gradually less over time. Across all the phones we examined, here’s a chart of how phones lose value over time.

Not all cell phones are created equal. You can buy an iPhone 4S today and sell it a few months later on the secondary market for almost what you paid for it. However, if you buy the latest big fancy Android phone, a few months later it has lost hundreds of dollars in value.

At every stage, the iPhone retains more of its original value than Android and BlackBerry phones. Even four years later, you can sell a first generation iPhone for $110 dollars.

A few of money saving tips

1. There is a diamond in the rough among Android phones. Pre-paid Android phones are relatively inexpensive and hold their value extremely well. The Motorola Triumph, HTC Wildfire, and Samsung Exhibit 4G, for example, retain 86% of the original value on average. These phones appear to be a much better value than the expensive Android phones that are typically nationally advertised.

2. Skip those extra GBs on your iPhone. An additional 8GB of hard drive costs you an extra $100 upfront but only adds $10 to the resale value of your phone. The secondary market doesn't value extra hard drive space on an iPhone, so get the one with the smallest amount of disk space.

3. Whenever you get a new phone, sell your old one. If you’re breaking your contract, you can use the proceeds to pay the early termination fee. If you’re eligible for an upgrade, you can use the proceeds toward the fee for the new phone.

4. It’s cheaper to break your contract than buying phones without a contract. Even with a $350 early termination fee, it’s usually $100 cheaper to get a subsidized phone and break the contract than buying a no-contract unsubsidized phone. Carriers want you to sign a contract so they create an incentive to do so.

Phone Fanaticism Across America

Would it be silly to figure out which cities in America are filled with rabid Apple fanboys, BlackBerry addicts, or Android fanatics? Yes, but we did it anyways!

We examine our data on used cell phone markets to see where these various phone platforms are most popular. We would expect that regions with a high affinity for a particular type of phone should have that type of phone dominate the listings in their marketplace on a percentage basis.

"Never trust anyone under 30 with a BlackBerry.”

-Morgan Missen, @mm

Notably, the places dominating the CrackBerry Index brought us The Financial Crisis, The Jersey Shore, carried interest tax exemptions, and parties where everyone wears white pants. It could be worse, in London BlackBerry users started a huge riot! At least in America BlackBerry use just goes hand in hand with self-indulgence and financial malfeasance.

The most iPhone fanatic city in America is . . . Santa Barbara, CA! Coming in as a close second is Anchorage, Alaska and of course San Francisco cracked the top 10. The least iPhone Fanboy city in America is Kansas City, Kansas. Perhaps the people of the city are still resentful their hometown carrier (Sprint) was last to get the iPhone.

You can see the list of the most Android fanatical cities, as well as the full rankings for BlackBerrys and iPhones here.

Conclusion

There is a beautiful and liquid secondary market for phones, and in that market, the iPhone reigns supreme. We built Priceonomics to create data so that consumers could make better decisions. Our data suggests that buying an iPhone is a better economic decision than an Android or BlackBerry. If you buy an iPhone, down the line you will have a piece of hardware that still has economic value.

In irony of ironies, it is BlackBerry and Android manufacturers that need to provide non-economic justifications for purchasing their products. That might explain all the recent Samsung phone commercials full of sound and fury, but signifying nothing.

From CNet, a bit old, but still to the point. They took ten cell phones they had reviewed in the past two years and checked their resale value on a site that BUYS used cell phones for resale. That means that these are wholesale prices being quoted and the phones will be sold by NextWorth for retail.

NextWorth values your cell phone
On the Web site NextWorth.com, you can find the value of your used electronic devices, including cell phones.
by Kent German
February 28, 2011 5:46 PM PST

I spent time today playing with NextWorth, a Web site that will tell you the trade-in value of many electronic devices. The site covers everything from MP3 players to video games, but I went straight to cell phones, of course, to see how much I could round up for the handsets we have sitting around the CNET offices.

All you have to do is go to NextWorth's site and plug in the name of your device. You'll also have to answer a few questions such as if any parts of the handset are broken or water damaged, if it turns on, and if you happen to have the original box, battery, and user manual. You'll then get an estimate of how much your phone is worth. To get your payment, you can mail in your handset using a prepaid shipping label or take it to a participating Target store.

I took 10 cell phones that we've reviewed over the past two years and plugged them in. A couple very recent handsets, like the Motorola Brute i686 weren't listed, but I could find a match for most phones I tried. Not everything had a trade-in value, but I could get at least a couple of dollars for most devices. Here's what I found.

On the whole, I'd say that most offers were pretty fair, but I was expecting more for the Droid Pro and the BlackBerry. Also, I was surprised I couldn't get at least $5 for the MyTouch 3G. Still, NextWorth offers a good way for some consumers to get cash for their old devices. And considering how quickly some people switch cell phones, it's a great way to make sure your cell phone ends up being recycled rather than ending up in a landfill.

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The state of affairs has not changed much. . . Android phones are just not in demand unless they are brand new, still in the box, unused, like the T-Moble MyTouch which is an unlocked, workable on any carrier's network. Then, and only then, might they demand a good price. The retail price on that phone was $500, so it brought 54% of its retail value. Not bad. But it was not used. It was brand new.

107 posted on 02/10/2015 2:25:54 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Real numbers for both igadgets and Androids. Trade in value etc.

As I've been trying to get through to you, the Total Cost of Ownership is LOWER owning an iPhone than owning an Android. . . because of the resale value. Sorry. You lose. These numbers have been run numerous times and Android loses every time. It is the same with PCs. Macs are less expensive to own when all costs are accounted and resale value is included. That is just the ECONOMIST way of looking at it. . . and I've told you I am educated as an Economist. You simply cannot win on this arguments.

108 posted on 02/10/2015 2:30:45 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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