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Word for the Day, Thursday, January 29, 2015 - Tu quoque
dictionaries ad nauseam | 29 January 2015 | Thursday's sub

Posted on 01/29/2015 5:40:04 AM PST by secret garden


In order that we might all raise the level of discourse and expand our language abilities, here is the daily post of "Word for the Day".

tu quoque /too kwoh-kwee, -kwey/ interjection
You likewise: a retort made by a person accused of a crime implying that the accuser is also guilty of the same crime.

Example sentences:
A good debater recognizes that resorting to a tu quoque only weakens one's position in the argument.

"Thomas describes Williams's defense tactic as 'tu quoque' (you're another), basically the aggressive defense for which Williams was known, accusing the accusers."
-- From Kim Eisler's 2010 book Masters of the Game: Inside the World's Most Powerful Law Firm

Etymology:
Latin, literally "thou also" (or, in modern slang, "so are you!"); an argument which consists in retorting accusations. It is an appeal to hypocrisy, is a form of ad hominem fallacy that occurs when it is assumed that an argument is wrong if the source making the claim has itself spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with it. The fallacy focuses on the perceived hypocrisy of the opponent rather than the merits of their argument. Frequently paired with guilt by association. A typical tu quoque involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of rather than refuting the truth of the accusation -- an evasive strategy that may or may not meet with success. The term has been active in the English language for about 400 years and has been put to use by a number of English writers, including C.S. Lewis, who penned, "your condemnation of my taste is insolent; only manners deter me from a tu quoque." The term is Latin in origin and translates as "you too," although the translation "you're another" is sometimes used as well (as in our second example sentence). "Tu quoque" functions in English as a noun, but it's often used attributively to modify other nouns, as in "a tu quoque argument."

v The sentence must, in some way, relate to the news of the day. The Review threads are linked for your edification. ;-)
Practice makes perfect.....post on....


Review Threads:

Review Thread One: Word For The Day, Thursday 11/14/02: Raffish
Review Thread Two: Word For The Day, Tuesday 1/14/03: Roister
Review Thread Three: Word For The Day, Tuesday 1/28/03: Obdurate

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To: secret garden

no and I doubt the church would pay for Al’s VIAGRA!


81 posted on 01/29/2015 9:59:11 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Amazon gift card could buy books that he can then donate, thus still keeping his vows.


82 posted on 01/29/2015 10:44:20 AM PST by tioga
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To: tioga

any ideas of what an appropriate welcome to the church gift we could get for our soninlaw? xsteen said Fr Etsio gave them each a rosary last night [pope Frank blessed] Etsio met JP2 on 3 diff occasions and he told them his mom loves the pic she has of him shaking hands with JP2, bc it’s her son with a SAINT. that’s a huge deal in anyone’s book!


83 posted on 01/29/2015 10:47:08 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Why no RCIA? This isn’t an emergency.


84 posted on 01/29/2015 10:53:59 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

He wasn’t going to make him wait for other applicants to join the church and he decided that an informal one on one teaching was appropriate. no, it’s not an emergency, but this is not a diocesan church either.


85 posted on 01/29/2015 10:56:55 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: secret garden

When congress puts the brakes
On what king Obama tries to do
He drags out the same tu quoque-
That of George Bush did it too

Never mind that the reality
Is seldom even close at all-
He sends out not-so-Earnest
To be just an idiot and stall

While king Obama wanders off
In his made-up world all day
With all his minions sucking up
And some rounds of golf to play...

It is 65 and partly cloudy-I’ve done the estimates my compadre couldn’t get to before he left for a few days-he will be able to rest after the work he did for his sister...


86 posted on 01/29/2015 11:18:45 AM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

You are a good egg, T. A+ for the excellent poem too. We have sunshine and 60s here now, but it is supposed to chill down again later today. I was able to get to the park and ease back to my routine and saw 2 large does in the woods.


87 posted on 01/29/2015 11:44:15 AM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden; SoothingDave

I had no idea the Amish ran puppy mills-that does not seem to fit what they profess to believe...

I used the AKC website that lists recommended breeders to find Husky girl, and the kennel was very nice-small, with just a few obviously indulged dogs that were used to being indoors as well as in the snow, and used to playing nicely with cats, where lots of Huskies are killers of smaller pets.

The cub’s AKC American Staffordshire/Pitbull Terrier was rescued from a puppy mill-it was one of the 10 puppies to survive out of the 25 that were taken, and she adopted him from the veterinary clinic where she worked. He is 8 years old now, healthy, happy, and a fine guard dog for her. He likes to get on the laps of guests and lie down-a great dog, but I’ve never been fond of terriers-whatever their size, they jump around and bark a bit too much-I prefer a more stolid breed of dog...


88 posted on 01/29/2015 11:48:27 AM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: secret garden

Thank you! It is supposed to cool off and rain here starting tomorrow. Dogs were barking and howling late last night when I took Husky girl out, and the two donkeys on the property across the river were braying-she went as far toward the river as I would let her, and started howling with the other dogs, but when I said lets go in, she came right up onto the deck with me, so whatever was there made her uneasy.

When I went hiking early this morning, I saw cougar tracks on the bank at the edge of the water-that is what all the fuss was about I guess...


89 posted on 01/29/2015 12:09:59 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Yikes. We have occasional bobcats and foxes, along with the coyotes, but no bigger predators around here.


90 posted on 01/29/2015 12:12:50 PM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy

That explains it. If a diocesan church they would have to follow SOP.


91 posted on 01/29/2015 12:21:40 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden

Say, how ‘bout a good ‘merkan word tomorrow?


92 posted on 01/29/2015 12:22:28 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texan5

I think the Amish view animals in a utilitarian way, not all sentimental like we English.


93 posted on 01/29/2015 12:23:49 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden

We have bobcats and a lot of foxes here-which surprises me because there are so many coyotes-but I guess the coyotes don’t compete with bobcats and foxes for the squirrels and other small game because there are enough people who leave their domestic pets loose outdoors for them to dine on...

Because we have an acreage requirement for a residence, cougars/mountain lion habitat is not encroached on out here, and they have plenty of deer, wild pigs-and loose pets-to eat. They really don’t like to be around humans.

They are not often seen by humans-I’ve hiked around the woods, river and cliffs for years, and I’ve only seen their tracks-once, when I was outside at night I heard a cougar making that sound they use to communicate with each other and the hair on the back of my neck stood up-I don’t really need to see one in the wild...


94 posted on 01/29/2015 12:50:46 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: MrB; tioga

You’ll have to ask the Friday sub. We are always open to suggestions.


95 posted on 01/29/2015 12:59:35 PM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: SoothingDave

If they have that much of a disregard for the care of animals, it just seems counterproductive to me-

Utilitarian does not mean abusing animals, especially if they are being raised to sell-healthy, well kept ones bring a better price where I come from-livestock is source of income as well as self-propelled food, so you make sure it is well kept and healthy-but horses and dogs are companion/pet animals who can also be work partners, and cats are pets that keep rodents out-they aren’t livestock.


96 posted on 01/29/2015 1:04:37 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SoothingDave; secret garden

Oops-that was for Dave...


97 posted on 01/29/2015 1:05:46 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

They are magnificent animals though.


98 posted on 01/29/2015 1:08:09 PM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

A favorite of mine is “apophasis”,
but I wouldn’t mention that you should use it a the WotD.


99 posted on 01/29/2015 1:13:42 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texan5

I don’t think most breeders abuse their animals. Like you said, it’s counter productive to their own interests. But animal fanatics always want to increase regulation. Always.


100 posted on 01/29/2015 1:20:31 PM PST by SoothingDave
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