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Newbie Asks a Question: What is "Crony Capitalism"? (Vanity)
Vanity Question ^ | Jan 11, 2015 | Regal

Posted on 01/11/2015 6:53:29 AM PST by Regal

I have just recently become an active poster (responder), and have seen the term "Crony Capitalism" used without explanation. Recently I saw the term associated with Communism, which confused me further. A "google" does little to clear things up, particularly in regards to how it might be interchangeable with communism. Can anyone help clear things up?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; americanpolitburo; capitalism; cronycapitalism; cronyfascsism; cultureofcorruption; insidertrading; sweetheartdeals
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To: Regal
what is croney capitalism? how it might be interchangeable with communism.

Economic inequality, can be the product of government coercion as occurs under feudalism and socialism, or as the result of any other arrangement, such as mixed economy, under which the government grants privileges or imposes arbitrary burdens. This sort of economic inequality is of radically different character from that which occurs under a free market,and is not only unnecessary, but positively inimical to a free modern division of labor society.

41 posted on 01/11/2015 8:19:27 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Regal
"I am vague as to how the idea is communism related."

That is the wrong -ism.

42 posted on 01/11/2015 8:23:53 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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To: Regal

Kinda like you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. With money and influence involved.


43 posted on 01/11/2015 8:24:21 AM PST by Bluebeard16
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To: ClearCase_guy

The interesting thing is that you CAN have Crony Socialism.


44 posted on 01/11/2015 8:32:57 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Regal

It is a partnership between big business/unions and big government.

It is not “Free Market Capitalism.” It is Fascism disguised as a free market.

Think of GM or Google paying for government influence to suppress competition and to owe $0 in taxes while making $billions.

It is the system used in China now. Fascism works very well for the cronies.


45 posted on 01/11/2015 8:35:45 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I would say Crony Capitalism is just shy of Fascism.

Capitalism/Free Market; Government applies laws equally to all, avoiding any favoritism. Government doesn’t own or control the means of production.

Crony Capitalism; Government chooses winners and losers by favoring one business or even industry over another, trading favors with government for the honor. Government bribes those who control the means of production in return for favors, funds for elections etc.

Fascism/Socialism; Government controls the privately owned means of production. Close to Crony Capitalism but without the outward appearance of control and intimidation, with existential authority.

Communism; Government controls and owns all means of production. Centralized control of all industry.


46 posted on 01/11/2015 8:48:40 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

Oops,

Fascism/Socialism; Government controls the privately owned means of production. Close to Crony Capitalism but WITH the outward appearance of control and intimidation, with existential authority.


47 posted on 01/11/2015 8:52:32 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Regal

‘Crony capitalism’ is to real capitalism what a koala bear is to a real bear. Rather than trying to fit one’s business strategy to the market, a crony capitalist uses connections in government to fit the market to his business strategy.


48 posted on 01/11/2015 8:53:51 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The opposite of Crony Capitalism is “The Tea Party”...


49 posted on 01/11/2015 9:00:46 AM PST by savage woman
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To: Regal

In the actual historical world, all capitalism is crony capitalism, just as all socialism is national socialism.

In literature, it can be otherwise.


50 posted on 01/11/2015 9:10:28 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Regal
If there is a poster boy/family for Crony Capitalism it would be ole "one-eye" Harry Reid & family.

Corny Capitalism is what makes millionaires outta elected officials.

51 posted on 01/11/2015 9:25:29 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Regal

52 posted on 01/11/2015 9:33:47 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Regal

Capitalism is a marxist term (i don’t apply it to America as our country was founded under the assumptions of a free-market system) and correct for this application.

Cronyism is a separate agreement by a group in power favoring particular individuals, or industry groups (obviously for the gain of the power group bestowing favors) at the expense of those left out who must suffer from the agreement.

Crony Capitalism is a private agreement (most often unconstitutional) between agents of the gov’t and agents of a company or corporation that bestows a market advantage on that company over it’s direct competitors in that market.

it is a subtle, piecewise form of economic command and control and therefore not full blown communism. but it’s eventual effect is the same. therefore there is no distinction between it’s immorality and that of pure communism. it is the same thing on an individual company or industry level as full blown communism.


53 posted on 01/11/2015 9:51:21 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Regal

this is simple...

it is a term that republicans use when the want to pass a law that gives the fed more power over private citizens and businesses....


54 posted on 01/11/2015 10:09:32 AM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Regal

Crony Capitalism is when a capitalist uses his connections with a politician usually established by large donations to a political party to gain competitive advantage over his competition, fund his projects, raise capital from government sources instead of competing for it on the open market by having “connections” enabled by political donations, arrange for preferential regulation which benefits the crony over the competition, arrange government bids which are written to specifications which are so narrowly drawn that only the products of a company own by the crony can meet them, and operating in a “revolving door” manner by hiring regulators in executive positions from the companies being regulated, and vice-verse.


55 posted on 01/11/2015 10:43:42 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: sportutegrl
As an aside, I hate the term, ‘Crony Capitalism’, because it has nothing to do with Capitalism, and only tarnishes that good name. Call it something else.

How about racketeering?

56 posted on 01/11/2015 10:59:53 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Wildbill22
Fascism/Socialism; Government controls the privately owned means of production. Close to Crony Capitalism but WITH the outward appearance of control and intimidation, with existential authority.

Not exactly correct.

Fascism: Big business owners/management controls government for the benefit of business. . . labor is at the behest and control of government for the benefit of business. Oligarchy of big business leaders make decisions of what happens in government for their benefit.

Socialism: Government owns/controls business/means of production. Labor operates under the fiction they are in control through "their" control of government. Oligarchy of bureaucrats make decisions of what happens in government for their benefit.

The lines between the two can blur and do. That is what we are experiencing today.

57 posted on 01/11/2015 11:20:47 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Regal

It is not any thing new, just a realization, transportation laws for instance like permits were advocated by many companies who were well established.

They chose to make laws which would make it hard for new comers to compete.

When the socialists came in to power they were against capitalism but the ones who will support them or even make them rich are at least tolerated.

Kind of like the story of robin hood, the king stole from the land owners and gave it to the rich land owners who supported him, Robin Hood just stole all he could back.


58 posted on 01/11/2015 1:00:04 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Regal
To be clearer. I understand cronyism, but I am vague as to how the idea is communism related.

It's not. Some people on this forum call anything that's not American style conservatism "communist".

59 posted on 01/11/2015 1:18:01 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Regal

http://cronychronicles.org/what-is-cronyism/


60 posted on 01/11/2015 3:48:07 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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