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OK, is ANYONE here really off the grid ?
self ^ | January 3, 2015 | knarf

Posted on 01/03/2015 3:37:59 PM PST by knarf

I got an e-mail that had one of those, "I'm just a regular guy but I've discovered the secret ... " type message ...


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KEYWORDS: alternativeenergy; electricity; energy; offthegrid; solar; wind
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To: CodeToad; All

Do you need a system that pays for itself or do you need a system that runs when other systems suddenly break down due to war or national catastrophe? If your system runs when macro systems have collapsed, has not your system suddenly paid for itself?

Another words isn’t the intrinsic cost of self sufficiency
priceless?

Perhaps you might never get back the full cost of a power system in terms of today’s fiat money economies. Consider what you do get back when these fiat money schemes break down!


141 posted on 01/04/2015 10:38:24 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("trapped by hyenas, Bill had as much life expectancy as a glass table at a UVA Frat house party!/s)
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To: knarf

Two ideas not mentioned: Out door wood furnace either the hot water type or the hot air type so that your fire and smoke are kept outside. If you stick with electric heat, consider geothermal (Trenches are usually cheaper than wells) which would cut your electric usage by half all the way up to 90 percent.


142 posted on 01/04/2015 10:48:34 AM PST by OldMagazine (You can only do what you can do.)
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To: Jemian
Congrats to all.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

143 posted on 01/04/2015 10:58:37 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: knarf

You are already living in a teepee for all the insulation that’s probably in that mobile home. Insulation should be step one in getting the electric bill down.


144 posted on 01/04/2015 11:11:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Revel

I said 100% efficient, not 100.00000000% efficient. I’m talking about real world measurement, not theoretical values.

Cheers!


145 posted on 01/04/2015 12:12:39 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: knarf; wintertime; Alas Babylon!
Sumpin' else I found - This one is for heatin"

(No, I haven't tried it., But I'm about to)

146 posted on 01/04/2015 1:54:33 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Farmer Dean

Thank you very much...I’ll look into this.
CW


147 posted on 01/04/2015 2:48:51 PM PST by caww
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To: Baynative

LOVE it .... thanx


148 posted on 01/04/2015 6:34:55 PM PST by knarf
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, If coal was readily available, that’s what I would concentrate on. In fact, there was a website a couple of years ago you could by a small unit( maybe 10x10x 12 ft tall) that you could have on your own property. Hitler ran his whole war on coal and did pretty darn good with it. My dad flew B-24’s to Ploesti to blow up the oil refineries, but stopping coal was much tougher. There is no doubt coal could supply all your needs with some land and some automation to feed the plant.


149 posted on 01/06/2015 12:37:11 AM PST by chuckles
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To: JRandomFreeper

I read a story a while back about a woman who asked her elderly grandmother “What is the greatest technological advance you’ve seen in your lifetime?”.

She expected the answer to be something along the lines of “television” or “space travel”.

Rather, it was “hot running water”.


150 posted on 01/08/2015 5:56:57 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer

Do you have any idea if a two-burner Ammo Can Rocket Stove is practical, or is it essential to use the length of the can to get the fuel feed chamber to work right?


151 posted on 01/14/2015 5:26:45 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think it could done, but I wanted plenty of room for a large pot or skillet. One thing I use it for is to heat wash water when I am camping. Cheap and I can easily heats up enough water to wash the breakfast dishes and some to shave and wash up a bit and not use my propane stove.


152 posted on 01/14/2015 10:07:28 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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