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More room for chickens likely means costlier eggs
apnews.myway.com ^ | Jan. 1, 2015 | SCOTT SMITH

Posted on 01/01/2015 10:28:11 AM PST by PROCON

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) — The new year is expected to bring rising chicken egg prices across the U.S. as California starts requiring farmers to house hens in cages with enough space to move around and stretch their wings.

The new standard backed by animal rights advocates has drawn ire nationwide because farmers in Iowa, Ohio and other states who sell eggs in California have to abide by the same requirements.

To comply, farmers have to put fewer hens into each cage or invest in revamped henhouses, passing along the expense to consumers shopping at grocery stores. California is the nation's largest consumer of eggs and imports about one-third of its supply.

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To: PROCON

It is not a “liberal” position to have basic laws against animal cruelty.


41 posted on 01/01/2015 11:52:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Catphish

Me, too. I hate when Freepers object to the most basic of decency.


42 posted on 01/01/2015 11:52:45 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

As someone who’s raised chickens and been a farmer, I can tell you you’re all wet on this one.


43 posted on 01/01/2015 11:53:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: EinNYC

I agree with you.. Food produced from that unnatural environment is not good for you.


44 posted on 01/01/2015 11:57:42 AM PST by HangingTuff
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To: PROCON

As for raising our own, we’ll have to live a long time to reach break even.

Just the coop cost as much as 100 dozen organic eggs.


45 posted on 01/01/2015 12:02:14 PM PST by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: Bratch

Oops, I am slipping. I used the words chicken food, it should be feed. Been a long time since I took animal nutrition.


46 posted on 01/01/2015 12:07:09 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: relentlessly
I’ve had chickens on my property - I cannot even image owning them and maintaining them in the conditions prior to this change. Even with the change - it’s still sad.

I've had parakeets and English Budgies (remember, I'm in NYC, I don't have extensive property for livestock). My little birds were kept in extremely spacious cages so that they would have room to fly around, play with their toys, etc. That was the whole joy of keeping them, to watch them having a good time. Yes, it meant I had less space in my home for myself, but I felt if I was going to own budgies, I had to give them the optimal living conditions. My cats and lizards also live "the good life".

I was flabbergasted to see, a few months ago, that a house about a mile or so away had chickens pecking away in the front yard! I called the appropriate city office and yes, hens (but not roosters) are permitted to be kept in the confines of NYC. No ducks, no turkeys, no geese--but hens are fine. Imagine that!

47 posted on 01/01/2015 12:08:40 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

The Famous Pig

A salesman is lost in a rural area and stops at a farm to get directions. As he is talking to the farmer he notices a pig with a wooden leg. “How did the pig get a wooden leg?”, he asks the farmer.

“Well”, says the farmer, “that is a very special pig. One night not too long ago we had a fire start in the barn.

“Well, sir, that pig set up a great squealing that woke everyone, and by the time we got there he had herded all the other animals out of the barn and saved everyone of them.”

“And that was when he hurt his leg?” asked the salesman.

“Oh no” says the farmer. “He was fine after that. Though a while later I was in the woods out back and a bear attacked me. Well, sir, that pig was near by and he came running and set on that bear and chased him off. Saved me for sure.”

“So the bear injured his leg then,” says the salesman.

“Oh no. He came away without a scratch from that. Though a few days later my tractor turned over in a ditch and I was knocked unconscious. Well, that pig dove into the ditch and pulled me out before I drowned.”

“So he hurt his leg then?” asks the salesman.

“Oh no,” says the farmer.

“So how did he get the wooden leg?” the salesman asks.

“Well”, the farmer tells him, “When you have a pig like that, you don’t want to eat him all at once.”


48 posted on 01/01/2015 12:10:50 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: EinNYC

I totally agree.


49 posted on 01/01/2015 12:11:10 PM PST by windcliff
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To: 9YearLurker

I’ve spent years in chicken houses, hatcheries, gathered eggs by hand. Hot, nasty work several times a day! This is after all Tyson, Simmons, George’s, Peterson Industries country. Peterson is now sold to Simmons.
I’ve debeaked chickens, had rotten eggs blow up in my face and hands just like small grenades and counted millions of chicks.
Thankfully I didn’t live all my life doing that.

Again, those who don’t raise chickens tell those that do how to raise them. Same for hogs and cattle.


50 posted on 01/01/2015 12:13:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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To: EinNYC

I was flabbergasted to see, a few months ago, that a house about a mile or so away had chickens pecking away in the front yard! I called the appropriate city office and yes, hens (but not roosters) are permitted to be kept in the confines of NYC. No ducks, no turkeys, no geese—but hens are fine. Imagine that!


The chickens are confined to NYC but have the freedom of pecking away in the front yard. I thought you were worried about cages for the chickens and here you live in one. I do understand your position now. You poor thing, living in a cage like that. (having fun with you)


51 posted on 01/01/2015 12:17:03 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: EinNYC

Unfortunately, large production farmers have co-opted the terms free range and cage free, so unless you’re buying from a small farm, it’s unlikely that the chickens are happier and healthier than those that are caged.

As I understand it, cage free is thousands of chickens with little room loose in a warehouse and free range is the same but with a small outdoor enclosure that can accomodate a handful if the birds are lucky enough to find the exit.


52 posted on 01/01/2015 12:17:16 PM PST by Nickname
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To: PROCON

I wish I could let my small flock run free again. In 2013 I lost my entire flock to predators. This year I have to keep my new flock in a pen with electric wire around the top as I have already lost four to bobcats and foxes.


53 posted on 01/01/2015 12:22:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Some farmers are responsible and kind, but some are not. Those who fail to meet minimal standards of care are responsible for society having to step in and establish standards. It is unfortunate, but where we are.


54 posted on 01/01/2015 12:24:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Oh, and the same goes for landlords and housing rentals—because some landlords don’t meet minimal standards, society has to set and enforce such.


55 posted on 01/01/2015 12:26:29 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Oh, but yes, PETA and the like are totally juvenile and irresponsible with their sometimes outrageous demands.


56 posted on 01/01/2015 12:27:30 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

***but some are not.**

A stressed chicken will not lay. A stressed cow will not give down milk. Same for other animals, if stressed they will not gain weight.


57 posted on 01/01/2015 12:29:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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To: EinNYC
I only eat the eggs of chickens that have been hideously mistreated. I call them "Pain Eggs", and they are far more delicious than anything else you can imagine.

Torture more chickens!

58 posted on 01/01/2015 12:31:15 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: PROCON; EinNYC

Agreed on reasonably healthy conditions for animals being the right way to go. Many of the smaller, more rural commercial poultry operations in the Midwest continue to afford more humane, healthy conditions for chickens—each long building with roomy enough pens on each side of a walkway down the middle (roomy enough for plenty of walking around and squawking).

From such operations, small cages are only used for transporting the chickens on trucks to slaughter plants when necessary (see old hens to chicken soup), because it’s also inhumane to allow domestic animals to die from old age or predatory animal attacks.


59 posted on 01/01/2015 12:33:25 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PROCON

bkmk


60 posted on 01/01/2015 12:33:29 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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