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Ahhhh, the irony.
1 posted on 12/28/2014 3:28:47 AM PST by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Another topic they don’t seem to be talking much about is the making and disposal of the battery systems for electric cars and what the environmental bugaboos are.


2 posted on 12/28/2014 3:52:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Up Yours Marxists; GeronL

#THEYMEANTWELL


3 posted on 12/28/2014 3:59:54 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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if ignition comes from coal, “electric cars produce 3.6 times more soot and smog deaths than gas, because of the pollution made in generating the electricity.”

and if the electricity comes from windmills.....

Big Wind's Dirty Little Secret: Toxic Lakes and Radioactive waste...

http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/big-winds-dirty-little-secret-rare-earth-minerals/

Oct 23, 2013 - Modern wind turbines depend on rare earth minerals mined primarily from China. ... Big Wind's Dependence on China's “Toxic Lakes”.

Also this:

A few residents in Falmouth, Massachusetts have finally won in their battle to have local wind turbines shut down due to the noise levels that they produced.

The Department of Environmental Protection released a report on Tuesday which stated that the noise levels from turbines less than 1,500 feet from the nearest home exceeded the acceptable state levels. Three megawatts of wind power will be shut down whilst further investigations are under way.

5 posted on 12/28/2014 4:17:47 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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I know for a fact that the govt motors jolt jam down my troat tingly leg goings on certainly elevated my bp and ire both of which are not good for general health of myself or others.


6 posted on 12/28/2014 4:44:59 AM PST by Recompennation
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Elon Musk can be formidable when crossed.


7 posted on 12/28/2014 4:54:44 AM PST by Mamzelle
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8 posted on 12/28/2014 5:04:11 AM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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Everyone be careful with articles like this. For some reason Freepers take delight in anything negative about electric cars, but make no mistake, this is really a leftist attack on coal. Don’t fall for it.


9 posted on 12/28/2014 5:18:14 AM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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Perhaps, but at least they cut an important revenue source for Russia, the Middle East, not to mention Venezuela. Also this is couched in the “evils” of using our very abundant resource coal.


11 posted on 12/28/2014 5:33:09 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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Perhaps, but at least they cut an important revenue source for Russia, the Middle East, not to mention Venezuela. Also this is couched in the “evils” of using our very abundant resource coal, I guess the alternative would be nuclear for all that electricity, and nuclear has come a long way since Three Mile Island. It’s just a shame that we have not replaced our aging plants with more modern ones, ironically in the name of environmentalism.


12 posted on 12/28/2014 5:38:34 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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I will not listen to any Enviro unless he explicitly supports Nuclear Power.


13 posted on 12/28/2014 5:44:07 AM PST by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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I have no problem with coal, and I get the poor energy conversion for electric cars. However, some of what I am looking into makes me wonder if that could all change, which is a huge shift for me as I have not been a proponent of E-Cars.

Read this post, I'd love you feedback: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3240394/posts?page=29#29

Are Battery breakthroughs ( amd replacing plants w/ here and now Co-Gen Nat. Gas Plants ) almost here for a real paradigm shift?....

15 posted on 12/28/2014 5:57:35 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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When you look at producing electricity from coal, there is an amazing loss of efficiency eg the heat up the stack even with economizers and super heaters. Add in the heat loss during condensation in the turbine chain, the steam (condensation) coming off the hyperbolic cooling towers...the efficiency btu in vs usable btu out (energy vs energy out) is about 30%. When you look at gasoline, your heat loss is minimal by comparison. So Internal combustion is more efficient by more than 100%, comparatively speaking. The slightest knowledge of energy application reveals an electric car is an elaborate hoax for the uninformed public.

Hoaxes work easily in a Gruber-stupid voting public scenario. I'm actually starting like this guy...he speaks more truth than any of them and obviously better understands the "system." To get rid of electric cars, no amount of factual information on thermodynamics will alter the course. The "stupid public" doesn't even know what the term means. Altering the course is much easier, you pay a "scientist" some tax dollars to show electricnc cars cause a 23.4% reduction in sexual drive. Then people will get rid of electric cars! (Don't ask....What does truth and fact have to do with it?)

16 posted on 12/28/2014 5:58:41 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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wow, since the cars are bad for the environment, I might have to buy one...


18 posted on 12/28/2014 5:59:43 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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if the source of combustion involves coal. These types of vehicles actually make the “air dirtier, worsening global warming,”

I bet they got something wrong here. :)

19 posted on 12/28/2014 6:01:26 AM PST by MulberryDraw (But I trust in your unfailing love; my heart rejoices in your salvation. Ps 13:5)
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I remember a FR post about a rain storm in Houston, and all the electric cars were shut down.


22 posted on 12/28/2014 6:30:44 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (NO COMPROMISE! NO BIPARTISANSHIP! STOP OBAMA NOW!)
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Yep the sting of truth to those who avoid it.


52 posted on 12/28/2014 8:38:10 AM PST by Vaduz
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“No gas allowed. No electric cars allowed. Horses are messy. Shouldn’t we just kill billions of people in concentration camps instead?” — Typical Green Holocauster.


53 posted on 12/28/2014 9:04:37 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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59 posted on 12/28/2014 10:16:15 AM PST by dfwgator
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I'd post the Laughing Jesus pic over the electric car issues, but environ-MENTAL stupidity, affecting us all, really isn't funny.

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76 posted on 12/28/2014 7:46:15 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Scrap it all, and walk everywhere, to save the planet. If you want to know more, I will address your group for a moderately large “token” fee, plus expenses.

PM me, and I will tell you which aircraft to charter, and what my other requirements are, to address your group at the Island Paradise of my choice.

Naturally, you will also have to fly your attendees there to hear me speak on how to reduce their carbon footprints, and save the world.


77 posted on 12/28/2014 8:16:43 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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