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To: Swordmaker
Your statement was factually correct. Although your context wasn't.

I'm finding it rather comical people never change. They feel emboldened by their trendy technology. If you love their products so much, put your money where your mouth is and invest. Go ahead.

And no, I don't hate Apple. Me and the misses own iPhone 5's. They're simple and they work. We owned stock in the 80's, but sold in the 90's when they went off the rails, teaming up with IBM and producing absolute garbage for 5 years. And they seem to be doing it again. The new phones look just like other Korean phones that came out a few years back. Apple was known to be an innovator. Sorry, you can't innovate from behind.



You're seeing the beginning of the end of the honeymoon for Apple. If they don't get their act together and start offering products that are actually purposeful, simple, flexible, and ergonomic, instead of trendy, eclectic overpriced entertainment paperweights, they're going to decline as fast as they climbed. With Microsoft and Google offering more and more Android offerings, that trend in the market is set to dominate the landscape by 2020. Without Jobs, it appears there's no Apple. Pity.
31 posted on 12/28/2014 9:57:15 PM PST by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Up yours, you are falling for the Market Share fallacy. . . and the prediction fallacy. If you think Apple products are "trendy, eclectic overpriced entertainment paperweights" and not "purposeful, simple, flexible, and ergonomic" devices, then YOU are not paying attention to the Apple ecosystem of how everything works together, productively, and interactively. I don't think you have any other Apple products except your iPhone 5s, and as a result do not, and can not, see the forrest for the single tree you have.

Even your cut and paste graphs show a SINGLE COMPANY maintaining half the market. . . but you still fail to address the problem in the other half of the market: profits. Did you even READ what is factual about that severe issue for them? Yes, they are shipping, but not selling to end users for ANY profit at all, large numbers of Android cellular phones. That is not a sustainable businessmodel, much less an industry model, Up Yours Marxists! They can NEVER make it up on volume. It's a one way ticket to the bankruptcy court.

Apple, with its small share of the world market, took home 87% of the world wide profits. Samsung, the number two manufacturer, concentrated in Android phones, took home 23%, and Xiaomi, took 1% (while cheating on costs). Yes, I know that totals 111%, but that's because the other 222 manufacturers all LOST money and reported negative numbers as they poured money out the door in a futile competitive chase for market share by ever and ever spiraling downward phone pricing and BOGO offers.

Apple doesn't report units "shipped", Up Yours, instead reporting actual units "sold to end users". The other manufacturers don't even report "units shipped", but rather "dollar volume shipped" from which their numbers are extrapolated by analysis. . . and then derived by comparing to units received at retailers. Many of the numbers "shipped" are never sold to end users but languish in reseller inventories until they are returned for resale at discounts and counted again in more "shipments" or slated for destruction.

Your predictions are bogus. . . Developers are STILL developing apps for iOS first, and then developing less capable apps for Android. . . Maybe, if they see a market. But Android users want free apps. They don't want to pay for them. The market is in iOS. This Christmas Season, iPhone and iPad users bought FOUR times more merchandise online than did Android users. . . and in the long run, that's why you're wrong: Android users are CHEAP!

32 posted on 12/28/2014 10:56:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Incidentally, Up Yours, the value and accuracy of your pretty charts from IDC should be obvious from the data they give for the market share for Windows Phone for 2014. 16.1% !!!

WOW! That’s impressive.

REALLY????

The reality was that ALL Windows Phones captured an whopping 2.5% of the phone market in 2014 down from 3.1% in 2013!

IDC missed Apple’s production of Macs this last quarter, too, by 23% too low, predicting a 7% drop in sales instead of the actual 18% market leading record gain!

So much for your IDC predictions!


33 posted on 12/28/2014 11:13:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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