Posted on 12/16/2014 4:19:14 PM PST by Salvavida
The current Standard Form (SF86) required for submitting for a federal background investigation, now requires applicant to disclose any participation with militias. This was never included in any previous edition. Here is the question:
Q: Have you EVER participated in militias (not including official state government militias) or paramilitary groups?
This is unprecedented. It says it is a revised July 2008 form: but I did one in 2011, and this question wasn't included.
This represents the first time an otherwise legal activity, is now under federal scrutiny in the background investigation process.
What about “militias”?
Salvavida, have you ever used any other names?
Times have changed. And not for the better.
ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MEMBER OF A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION THAT....
Communists get a pass.
Your answer better jive with NSA data. Next, they’ll want to know if you’re a Freeper.
>>Have you EVER participated in militias (not including official state government militias) or paramilitary groups?<<
From a purely legal perspective, anyone can and should answer “no” since those terms have no meaning.
Does ISIS count as a militia?
Everyone’s in the ORIGINAL Constitutional militia automatically, unless they leave it voluntarily - which would be equal to refusing to defend the country in time of war.
I thought they didn't exist, which is why the Second Amendment is an anachronism?
Can you explain your statement further?
A “militia” will mean whatever the Left wants it to mean. Remember, Po-Mo* has destroyed the language.
*Postmodern deconstructionism, where reality is a social construct and logic is replaced with psychosis.
>>Can you explain your statement further?<<
Sure: What is a “militia?” Where is it defined in the law? What case law supports the definition? Most importantly, how would someone who is filling out a form supposed to know said definition, even if it exists?
Likewise, if I am a member of a group that is called “Tea Party 2nd Amendment group” and we go the gun range together once a week, is that a “militia?”
Who is to say? Guess what? Unless and until the definitions are LEGALLY instantiated, the terms have no meaning.
I don’t find it surprising. The government is the enemy of the people, and the government should be able to be selective about who joins its side.
Nah. Thems just mah huntin buddies.
“A “militia” will mean whatever the Left wants it to mean. Remember, Po-Mo* has destroyed the language.”
Likely this means anyone who was a Boy Scout prior to 2014.
Virginia has a code on militia where all males between 18-46 are in the "unorganized militia", which is the 3rd branch of the whole Virginia militia. Other states have similar codes, but not all.
I was going to answer exactly the opposite. All real American adults are or have been in the militia, so the category excludes only Obama and the rest of his illegals:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
( b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
>>I don’t know where to look for case law, but I assume Black’s law dictionary would we the source for a definition.
Virginia has a code on militia where all males between 18-46 are in the “unorganized militia”, which is the 3rd branch of the whole Virginia militia. Other states have similar codes, but not all.<<
If everyone is one, no one is. It renders the question moot (and does a better job — sometimes more is less).
Nicely researched!
See my note re: if it is everyone then it is no one.
Now, we can REALLY have fun with “paramilitary.” :)
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