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1 posted on 12/11/2014 5:39:22 PM PST by Theoria
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Only during daylight hours.


2 posted on 12/11/2014 5:40:20 PM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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Should I have to pay for your electrical grid if I never hook up to it?


3 posted on 12/11/2014 5:42:21 PM PST by Edward Teach
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Is it ethical to charge someone for something they don't receive?

Government bureaucrats & commies think any reason is good enough to extort money form those who have it, but is it ethical?

4 posted on 12/11/2014 5:44:26 PM PST by skeeter
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They should only have to pay an amount equal to what the utility wastes on non infrastructure related expenses. That would be about 90%.


7 posted on 12/11/2014 5:48:12 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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They should not have to pay a “grid maintenance fee” if they are not connected to the grid (ie - they generate their own power 24/7/365); however, if they are connected to the grid and dark matter (night) invades and they have to draw power from the grid then they should be liable for the fee.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 5:48:23 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Eric the Red Holder has probably read the Communist Manifesto but not the Constitution.)
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Yes. People with no children have to pay school taxes.


11 posted on 12/11/2014 5:52:39 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Electric and gas company investors:

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
“2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

About "70 million" people are receiving good incomes but are also steeped in debt and can't borrow more for big ticket items (see groups above).

More Than 101 Million Working Age Americans Do Not Have A Job
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3005481/posts

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts


12 posted on 12/11/2014 5:53:04 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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The costs of solar energy are plummeting, and now are about on par with the electricity generated at big power plants

Only allowing for the federal subsidies... In reality, it's not competitive at all.

18 posted on 12/11/2014 6:08:20 PM PST by XEHRpa
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If a residence is completely disconnected from the grid, thereby never being able to use utility generated electricity, then they should pay nothing.

On the other hand, if a residence is connected to the grid and drawing power from the grid at any time or simply able to do so, then that residence should be paying for the cost of any electricity used plus a charge for the infrastructure. It would seem that utilities need to break out their charges to include a component for infrastructure support. Each home in a community would pay the same fixed infrastructure fee. If that were the case, then the residence drawing power from the grid during certain hours would be paying a monthly infrastructure support charge just like his neighbors plus the cost of generating any electricity used during that month. It does not seem fair that a residence using solar generated power should be able to rely on the electric utility for backup without paying a fee for that backup service. A home having no connection to the grid does not have the ability to tap utility supplied electricity. Hence no fee for them.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 6:08:58 PM PST by CdMGuy
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Of course they should pay.

The solar panels just demonstrated that they still have money left.


22 posted on 12/11/2014 6:15:39 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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Get off of the grid.

http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

http://www.permsteading.com/

http://donkey32.proboards.com/
(more on rocket stove mass heaters)

$1000 Solar Water Heater —Overview
http://www.builditsolar.com/Experimental/PEXColDHW/Overview.htm
(good learning tool for the system behind the next link)

$2K Solar Space + Water Heating — One Simple DIY System
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/DHWplusSpace/Main.htm

As for PV solar power plants, there are sites all over the Net for learning how they work, how to install them and the best components to install. Get a copy of the National Electrical Code. Study it. Study electrical safety. It’s well worth it. A powerful, self-installed system can use as little as about $60 per month, if you get rid of some of the more outrageously hungry appliances and use better equipment for comforts—especially home-built equipment.


24 posted on 12/11/2014 6:17:41 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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end heavy subsidies and tax breaks on solar


26 posted on 12/11/2014 6:22:06 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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If they have absolutely no connection whatsoever to the transmission system then no, otherwise yes.


27 posted on 12/11/2014 6:22:35 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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OMG! One Leftist Utopia Idea just MIGHT be coming to fruition! Solar Power for all! (As IF they invented it, LOL!)

Oh, wait...it’s probably DESTROYING the planet in some manner, like frying some ‘protected’ fly that flies over our solar panels on the roof - so in the next decade we’ll need to BAN solar!

Effing Eco-Weenie Morons.

HOWEVER - I’m not giving up my wind-powered water-pumping windmill on my farm. Eff you! Eff you all! I’ve got mine, so screw the rest of ya, LOL!

*SNORT*

‘New’ sources of energy. Bwa-Haaaaa-Haaaaaa!

*Shakes Head, Walks Away*


28 posted on 12/11/2014 6:24:29 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Huh, we are paying for other people’s medical...duh, yeah.


30 posted on 12/11/2014 6:25:30 PM PST by Bronzy
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Because I can purchase electricity from a different supplier than the local utility I have to pay for electricity and for delivery separately, along with a fixed monthly hookup fee.

If I were taking electricity from the grid part of the time and putting it back at other times it would be reasonable to pay for the fixed fee and the delivery fee both ways because I would be using the equipment no matter which way the electricity is flowing.

32 posted on 12/11/2014 6:26:57 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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I have no car*. Should part of my taxes go towards street repair, infrastructure maintenance and new road construction?

* made up for the example. I do have a vehicle.


34 posted on 12/11/2014 6:30:00 PM PST by upchuck (Ferguson: Put your hands down and go to work!)
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What’s the minimum rate for maintaining an electrical connection, $25.00 a month? How many vacation homes and vacant buildings are there, with power shut off at the panel but connected to the grid? They don’t force these customers to pay anything but the basic connection fee. Any more than that for customers with solar should not be legal, they’d be charged for services not rendered.


44 posted on 12/11/2014 6:53:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Hell yes!!!

Eliminate all subsidies and kill stupid solar!!!


45 posted on 12/11/2014 6:53:34 PM PST by dalereed
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I know what our general tendencies are... You can buy a car that gets 10MPG or one that gets 50MPG. You simply pay for what you use, nothing more, nothing less. However, what blows up this particular argument is that these utility companies do not operate on the open market, they are regulated utilities. Free market principles don’t completely apply because government has messed with the natural order of things. Normally I would say it’s none of anyones damned business where the electricity goes or how much goes into my home after the meter. Reducing the amount I consume by either shutting everything off, or by supplementing with solar power is not their business. Now, if by some magical feat the meter is always pushing back more than I consume, then yes, I should be paying for the right to connect and sell back to them. for some reason, I just don’t see that happening though.


46 posted on 12/11/2014 7:26:08 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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