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`Flame and Blame` uncovers Sherman's strategy of war on civilians
WIS TV ^ | Dec 05, 2014 | Renee Standera

Posted on 12/05/2014 1:01:20 PM PST by aomagrat

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To: aomagrat
I thought "flame and blame" was when you break wind and accuse an innocent bystander.

And then the "he who denied it supplied it" supposition prevails.

41 posted on 12/05/2014 1:59:31 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: aomagrat

The smell....the smell....I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells of victory....

If one uses it enough it works every time.


42 posted on 12/05/2014 2:01:18 PM PST by Omniscient Certitude
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To: Vendome; cripplecreek
If Germany had never bombed Pearl Harbor we probably would not have involved ourselves until Europe had been totally dominated by Nazi Germany.

Yeah, Hitler really screwed up by attacking Pearl Harbor.

And, then, the Nips launched Operation Balballosa against the USSR and that sealed their doom.

43 posted on 12/05/2014 2:01:25 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: cripplecreek

When I was a boy driving through the South, you could still see those charred chimneys standing alone - Sherman’s Sentinels.


44 posted on 12/05/2014 2:03:25 PM PST by Argus
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To: aomagrat

I once met a bitter, old hag feminist who was a history PhD. from Arkansas. She was also compelled to rant about the Civil War.


45 posted on 12/05/2014 2:04:27 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: okie01

Balbossa Kilbossa!

Great with Pale Ale Beer...


46 posted on 12/05/2014 2:04:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: atomic_dog

He who smelt it dealt it.


47 posted on 12/05/2014 2:06:38 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: Rappini

The South was right and so was Sherman when it came to the blacks. He said they would not be able to care for themselves. 150 years later and it’s gotten worse.


48 posted on 12/05/2014 2:16:24 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: okie01

49 posted on 12/05/2014 2:20:45 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: aomagrat

The point is correct: You want your adversaries to understand their cause is permanently hopeless and defeated.

That is the only basis on which to build a lasting peace.

See The South, Germany, Japan, etc.

For counter-example, see all the places we didn’t really have the guts to crush the opposition completely: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

It is actually humane to do this. The faster they learn they are utterly defeated, the sooner the death-dealing ends.


50 posted on 12/05/2014 2:21:52 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Today’s civilian firearms are utterly ineffective against tanks and really any fighting vehicle”

You mean like in Afghanistan? LOL!! Tanks and fighting vehicles especially tanks are not designed for uban warfare which is what CWII in the US will be. I’m still laughing. What do you think the govt is going to do Sherm blow up all the cities with tanks? :-)


51 posted on 12/05/2014 2:26:31 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: aomagrat
One of my favorite subjects: our Civil War. During Thanksgiving week we toured Manassas, Sharpsburg (Antietam) and Gettysburg - in snow, yet. It amazes me how Lee was determined to get up north - not only for provisions - but to bring that terrible war to us Yankees. He almost succeeded that amazing man.
52 posted on 12/05/2014 2:27:08 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

“One of my favorite subjects: our Civil War.”

First it was not a Civil War. Civil War is when two factions are fighting for control of the government. The South just wanted to leave the Union which was their right. They never tried to invade, conquer and subjugate the North.


53 posted on 12/05/2014 2:33:14 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: aomagrat

Sherman’s methodology was simple. His march to the sea went through an agricultural heartland of the South. By ruining it, it could no longer provide food to the Confederacy.

Importantly, this represents a choice: do we destroy their farms, or do we kill them?

A similar choice was later made by Kit Carson, ordered to subdue the Navajo, who at the time were a significant mounted threat. And he concluded that, “I could kill every Navajo horse, or I could kill every adult Navajo man.” And he chose their horses. This effectively neutralized them as a fighting force, and saved thousands of lives.

In any event, southerners are free to ritually hate Sherman for what he did.


54 posted on 12/05/2014 2:33:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Why don’t you Rebs change the tune already. Lincoln a traitor. What is your evidence?


55 posted on 12/05/2014 2:33:51 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: aomagrat

‘and did not admit until 1875 in his memoirs that he had blamed the Confederates, namely General Hampton.”

Sorry, this simply does not make sense. If he blamed him at the time, how did not disclose that he blamed him until 1875? There’s no evidence that he ordered it, and eyewitnesses said he was surprised when he was told. Since he readily admitted to deliberately burning Atlanta, I don’t see why he would bother with an elaborate deception in Columbia. Where is her new evidence?


56 posted on 12/05/2014 2:34:07 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
When the aggressors wins it's victory. When they're beaten by the people they start wars with it's ''war crimes''. Grow up.
57 posted on 12/05/2014 2:36:03 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I go by it’s traditional name which is the Civil War - brother against brother. I, too, do not believe they ever intended to conquer the North. But the genius of Lee is that he knew how to intimidate the north. Good for him.


58 posted on 12/05/2014 2:37:27 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: aomagrat

“”He wanted to cripple the Confederacy,” said retired University of South Carolina journalism professor Patricia McNeely.”

Thanks, Captain Obvious.


59 posted on 12/05/2014 2:39:47 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority."- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yeah, it was the “War between the States,” but they never really caught on. Like the “Battle of Bunker Hill” was fought at “Breed’s Hill”. It’s not accurate, but that’s what it’s known as.


60 posted on 12/05/2014 2:46:02 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority."- Benjamin Franklin)
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