Posted on 12/03/2014 7:55:14 AM PST by Brother Cracker
People will worship him, and God will deal out the justice in due time.
He’s just an idol.
wow....what a shame. never knew that about Danny Thomas at all. His wife must have been a martyr. I know i have heard stories about Danny Kaye w/Lawrence Olivier (you must have heard those rumors too), but nothing other than that. For all their talent, they have deep character flaws, apparently. I don’t know if it is the money/power/ego trip when they become stars or if they were just that way from the beginning. You hear the same kinds of things about famous writers/artists...many, while obviously talented, aren’t people you’d want to be friends with or invite to dinner. I have heard that Lillian Helman could be a real handful.
I know you’ve been in the theatre...we’ve emailed in the past. I bet you have some interesting stories up your sleeve!
Highly successful people are often weird - I don’t know why. I think a lot of manic-depressive people go into show biz but I don’t know why that is, either.
I once talked to a famous actor who knew Olivier very well and said the Danny Kaye story was nonsense. Kaye was noted for his ill-humor. He also dressed up as Kay Thompson a lot which fed the gay rumors.
Comedians are indeed particularly notorious for their moody and often very unpleasant personalities, versus their public personas. There are probably a few exceptions to the rule (never heard anyone say anything but positive things about Oliver Hardy!), of course.
No. There’s just too much smoke not to be a fire.
Both Laurel and Hardy were supposed to be very, very nice. Two of my very favorites.
I think, maybe, we’re talking about stand up comedians as opposed to actors. Of course, Danny Kaye was a performer, not a standup, so go figure.
Yes, I love Laurel and Hardy, too. I met Stan’s daughter Lois several times, and had some nice discussions with her.
Might be a valid point about stand-up type performers as opposed to actors. The track-record seems far worse with them. But as with performers, before Danny Kaye, there was the equally insufferable Frank Fay.
And then there’s also the generational aspect. So many performers from the pre-war days lived through some pretty hard times. Working on farms, fighting in wars, going to bed with empty stomachs. I mean, David Niven, just a few short years before becoming a “movie star” was digging ditches in a road-construction crew. Glenda Farrell had to use potato sacks for diapers for her baby. So many stories like this. It was virtually the norm for that older crowd. Hence, when these people achieved fame and success, they really APPRECIATED it. No sense of ‘entitlement’ with them, and they knew full well it was the fans that made them, and they behaved with people and the public accordingly, for the most part.
Any guy wearing a hat like that had got to be some sort of pervert!
In 1600, that was the Frank Sinatra look :-)
So whats up with curry??? I don’t get it. What would gross about it. If you know, would you want to explain it? I have heard this 3 times and I don’t get it. Thanx if you can reply.
Right now the evidence is about 20 women that you choose to ignore and think are all lying, it also includes two police reports and a 2005 out of court settlement with a woman claiming the drugging/rape method was used on her and her finding 13 other women at the time who were willing to testify to his method of drugging/rape.
No one is asking you to judge we aren’t in a courtroom, all we have are opinions based on the damning evidence, enough that is is hard to believe that this man has never drugged and raped a woman, ever.
**”“He’d include as a request, before he arrived, that the young girls, interns and assistants, all had to gather around in the green room backstage and sit down and watch him eat curry,” our stunned source explains. “No one would say anything, and he would sit silently eating and make us watch and want us to watch.”**
That demand based on the control over the young women, fits some of the explanations for his form of rape, using drugs to make victims passive, and him totally in control.
Remember that some of his defenders have kept claiming that he was rich and famous and didn’t “need” to rape to have sex with females, but as this bizarre example reveals, it is about controlling them.
Cosby was rich and famous by 1966 and immensely popular in America, he wasn’t born or raised in the deep South, he is from Philadelphia.
So? what about the 1950’s? He was exactly living large then, and he didn’t confirm himself to only integrated areas. Even in 1966 there were places like hotels he was not welcome.
“So you wouldn’t care if today you became a national pariah?”
There us 0% chance of that happening so that I do not worry about it and even if that would somehow happen I am too close to death for it to be a concern to me. ;-)
Actually he was doing great in Philadelphia in the 1950s.
Some of you, mostly young, have been taught that what it was like in the deep South, was what it was like throughout the United States.
If Cosby and his wife are the racists they are accused of being, that is their own character flaw, it wasn’t imposed on them.
“”As a student, he described himself as a class clown. Cosby was the captain of both the baseball team and the track and field team at Mary Channing Wister Public School in Philadelphia, as well as the class president. Early on, though, teachers noted his propensity for clowning around rather than studying. At FitzSimons Junior High School, Cosby began acting in plays as well as continuing his devotion to playing sports. He went on to Central High School, an academically challenging magnet school, but his full schedule of playing football, basketball, baseball, and running track made it hard for him.””
Prejudice wasn’t limited to the deep south. When my Mom was growing up in Indiana (20s, 30s), it was illegal in her county for a black man to be there overnight. She thought they changed the law when she was in her early teens.
16 states had anti-miscegenation laws overturned in 1967. Indiana repealed theirs in 1965. Cosby enlisted in the Navy in 1956.
“Cosby won awards running on the Navy track team, but also experienced racial discrimination, being forced to eat in the kitchen of cafes where the team stopped to eat while on the road. He was honorably discharged after four years of service in 1960.”
Prejudice of all kinds exists everywhere and always, Bill Cosby and his wife are racists for example.
But you guys trying to justify something by painting with an overly heavy brush, are wrong.
We are all used to this phenomenon though, it is why it is practically impossible to bring up the 1950s with people under age 50, because the instant response is “what about slavery man......” “what about women man.....” they have been taught that before the left took over, it was all darkness and the lash, hate and oppression.
Where did I say they were lying? I said there are victims but hysteria can also play a role.
I have first hand experience with hysteria.
I’d rather get the facts in a court first.
“But you guys trying to justify something by painting with an overly heavy brush, are wrong.”
What am I trying to justify?
I remember the 60s. I lived in Selma Alabama in the mid-60s. There were still segregated bathrooms in some places into the 60s. If I had grown up black in the 50s or 60s, I’d have a chip on my shoulder too.
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