[mmichaels1970]

The two most recent Heisman winners from Texas are turning out to be massive NFL busts — in the Ryan Leaf category.

Way too early to claim that. Manziel is doing what top rookie QB's USED to do before we started expecting hall of fame numbers in their rookie year. He is sitting on the sidelines and learning. Many of the greatest have done this. Do you remember who Brett Favre's backup was? Bernie Kosar sat behind Gary Danielson until he got hurt (probably a better comparison).

The Browns are 7-4. Don't rush a kid if you don't need to.

[re_nortex]

Way too early to claim that. Manziel is doing what top rookie QB's USED to do before we started expecting hall of fame numbers in their rookie year.

Good points all around. I think the Aaron Rodgers scenario that you alluded to is the best example of what stated.

What about RG3? In your opinion, would it have better if he had a few years to get familiar with the systems?