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To: daniel1212; tired&retired

One can only hope the same person does not now continue to deny what the scriptures clearly say; that we are to believe in Jesus...


96 posted on 11/24/2014 4:40:23 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

“One can only hope the same person does not now continue to deny what the scriptures clearly say; that we are to believe in Jesus...”

I totally agree with you. That would be a disastrous slippery slope.

I read and reread John 17 quite frequently. Jesus makes it very clear that He represents our Father and our Father works through Him. I don’t just believe that He is my Savior, I know for certain that He is my Savior.

That being said, Jesus often attributed His works and messages to His Father’s Will. Jesus’ Will and God’s Will are One. Just as Jesus’ Will should be our will if we totally surrender to Him. It is impossible to get to God except by going through Jesus. He came as our intermediary or Helper to show us the Way.

My statement earlier about being in Jesus and believing in God was a bit confusing on my part as Jesus is totally aligned with God so it is impossible to be in one without being in the other and it is impossible to believe in one without believing in the other.

Jesus makes it very clear that He is not the Father but is the Son. He not only directs His own Will toward surrender to His Father but teaches us to do the same in the model prayer He gave us. The prayer is to Our Father.. not the Son. (I know, we can’t pay to God without praying to Jesus)

He goes on to call us His brothers and states that their is one Father.


97 posted on 11/24/2014 9:23:56 AM PST by tired&retired
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