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Waste from Ebola-Exposed Patient Incinerated at Ft. Detrick
NBC Washington ^ | 11/16/2014 7:25AM

Posted on 11/16/2014 5:14:31 AM PST by wtd


(Excerpt) Read more at nbcwashington.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: disposal; ebola; waste

1 posted on 11/16/2014 5:14:31 AM PST by wtd
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To: wtd

Last time I checked, Fort Deterick was exactly the right place to be handling biologically-dangerous materials. That’s what they do there, isn’t it? Correct me if I’m wrong.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 5:20:13 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Riley
What I really remember about Detrick is that just BEFORE 9-11, there was a TV program about the place which captured my brain and I said...Holy Cripes...

Then came the anthrax attack. (Which I believe was via Atta and friends but is somehow connected to Detrick and Iraq)

3 posted on 11/16/2014 5:39:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Riley
Riley asked:
"Last time I checked, Fort Deterick was exactly the right place to be handling biologically-dangerous materials. That’s what they do there, isn’t it? Correct me if I’m wrong.

Well, the point of posting this thread was made in the excerpt...then why the lack of details? At least one "official" seems to express some concern with such a lack of forthcoming details.

"An official with the union that represents workers at Maryland's Fort Detrick said he's troubled by the lack of details . . ."

4 posted on 11/16/2014 5:40:37 AM PST by wtd
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And what’s the problem?

USAMRIID has been generating Ebola waste for years, which is incinerated. There has never been a problem with it. As far as I know, there has never been an Ebola outbreak in Frederick.


5 posted on 11/16/2014 5:45:43 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: wtd
The Frederick News-Post reports that medical waste generated by the treatment of an Ebola-exposed patient at the National Institutes of Health was incinerated at Fort Detrick last month. An installation spokeswoman said the waste was not infectious and had been processed through a sterilization device before being taken to the fort.

So far there is no story.

6 posted on 11/16/2014 5:54:46 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: wtd

Yes- I got that. He’s a union representative. Is it out of the norm for the union guy to not be in the loop for stuff like this? I don’t know, but whenever I see a union rep complaining to the press, my suspicions about motives switches on. I don’t often see union people going to the press the press for reasons that aren’t self-serving or politically motivated. Also- in what capacity to union people at the base handle seriously biologically-hazardous material? I wouldn’t suppose that they’d transport it on a regular truck that might say, allow themselves to stop blocking a railroad crossing in traffic and get t-boned by a train.

I don’t know, maybe they do.


7 posted on 11/16/2014 6:00:02 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: exDemMom; ansel12
"And what’s the problem?-exDemMom

"So far there is no story.-ansel12"

The article questions whether a problem exists. I posted the link in case at some point there is evidence such questions become relevant. Since 2008, perhaps even earlier, it became more common for troublesome articles to vanish from source archives.

In the not so distant past, I located material in Free Republic archives which was long ago scrubbed from archives at the sourced link(s) ... as well at the internet archive.

I've made it a habit to post reports like this in multiple locations to undermine such efforts. If this poses a problem here, kindly advise.

8 posted on 11/16/2014 6:15:32 AM PST by wtd
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To: wtd

Post a report of what, a union complaining?

You don’t have to post every little thing here for your personal collection, save it to your files if you think there is a conspiracy to make this “story” disappear.


9 posted on 11/16/2014 6:28:21 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: ansel12
On the other hand, you do not have to read every post that you find has no issue for you to consider.

My personal files are meaningless to provide actual documentation that others read the same. So unless the mods suggest otherwise, I will continue to post.

10 posted on 11/16/2014 6:53:24 AM PST by wtd
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To: wtd

You post a thread with a headline, then we get there and find nothing, and you tell us that you are using FR as a file cabinet, that you are deliberately just posting fluff, because you want kept at a place that you can retrieve it later.

Judging from post 8, you seem to realize that you are making low quality threads.


11 posted on 11/16/2014 7:02:18 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: wtd

I read this book (it seems like decades ago). I don’t know if it’s even available anymore but it makes for interesting reading: http://all-natural.com/horo-3.html


12 posted on 11/16/2014 7:06:43 AM PST by old school
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To: wtd

Thanks for the post. They keep telling us that it’s very hard to catch Ebola and yet they use Ft Detrick to destroy Ebola-infected waste.

Either we’re being lied to or using Detrick to destroy this stuff is akin to using a pile driver to drive a nail into a board.


13 posted on 11/16/2014 8:15:32 AM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici
Either we’re being lied to or using Detrick to destroy this stuff is akin to using a pile driver to drive a nail into a board.

Using Fort Detrick, that has the facilities because USAMRIID (at Fort Detrick) has been doing research on Ebola and other nasties for DECADES, makes a lot of sense. Why reinvent the wheel?

In reality, any hospital or research laboratory that generates potentially infectious waste has to have the waste sterilized by professional waste sterilization companies. This is because those companies, in order to be licensed to handle such waste, test their sterilizers regularly, and keep records of every sterilization cycle.

14 posted on 11/16/2014 12:22:56 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
Using Fort Detrick, that has the facilities because USAMRIID (at Fort Detrick) has been doing research on Ebola and other nasties for DECADES, makes a lot of sense. Why reinvent the wheel?

There is no wheel to reinvent. They keep saying how hard it is to catch Ebola. Why not just sanitize and dispose of as normal medical waste? Why send them all the way to Detrick?

15 posted on 11/16/2014 8:48:08 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici
There is no wheel to reinvent. They keep saying how hard it is to catch Ebola. Why not just sanitize and dispose of as normal medical waste? Why send them all the way to Detrick?

The article talked about the waste from a patient at the NIH. Depending on traffic, that's about 40 minutes away from Fort Detrick. It's probably cheaper than using a civilian company, and the people at Detrick are used to dealing with this stuff. This article is really making mountains out of molehills.

16 posted on 11/16/2014 9:02:22 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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As the NIH is home to NIAID, it seems to me they should have the facilities onsite to dispose of such waste. Why take the chance to truck it up 270 all the way to Frederick when they certainly have the facilities to dispose in Bethesda?

Something ain’t right ...


17 posted on 11/16/2014 9:53:47 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici
Just thinking back on how we've always had to dispose of waste in various facilities that I've worked at... we bagged it up, and placed it in a bin for pick-up by some contracting company, or something similar; the waste was always handled off-site.

I think the issue is probably more one of trying to deal with bureaucracy than anything else. I recall seeing some article--here it is: "Louisiana to Block Ashes of Ebola Victim’s Belongings From Entering State." I doubt that the Louisiana attorney general is the only one who is so clueless--everyone who is "educated" about the Ebola virus by reading "The Hot Zone" is probably equally clueless. So I would make an educated guess here and say that rather than potentially deal with colossal ignorance, administrators over at the NIH decided to just send the waste where they are used to handling such waste on a routine basis. I.e., USAMRIID.

Of course, the Ebola virus is not very contagious, and is as easily killed as any other virus. But that's not the issue here.

18 posted on 11/17/2014 3:44:10 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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