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McDonald's Says No to Simplot's GMO Potato
NBC News ^ | November 15, 2014 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/15/2014 3:28:37 PM PST by Bettyprob

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To: Enlightened1
Okay, thank you for that.

As far as the low doses of arsenic (and isn't that naturally occurring in apple seeds and bitter almonds?) why doesn't that work like getting vaccinations that contain low amounts of the disease you're vaccinating to prevent? Is it really that dangerous? In small amounts wouldn't the body learn to resist it?

I don't know that cancer is exploding but neurological and autoimmune problems in children is ... like diabetes 1 and autism. I am convinced it's all environmentally caused, either by food, drug use or pollutants.

Don't know ... just asking.

121 posted on 11/16/2014 12:48:08 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Wow I can tell you REALLY DID your homework when it comes to what you eat....(sarcasm off) The Glyposate is not debated genius! They (Monsantos) ADMITS its there.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate Right now our country spends 3 Trillion a year on Heath. We are ranked 49th in the world. However, we lead the world in Cancer, Heart Disease, Diabeties and Alzheimers. Yet you seem to THINK.... that our Health has NOTHING to do with what we eat as we have been advised going all the way back to the Bible. I get it you can't do a simple Google search on both sides in order to figure out what's going on. You needs pictures and pop up books. LOL! Well here you go. This is a Rat that was on a GMO diet. That ball is a Cancerous Tumor.
122 posted on 11/16/2014 1:08:50 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1
The Glyposate is not debated genius!

I've never debated that Glyphosate is used on crops.

Yet you seem to THINK.... that our Health has NOTHING to do with what we eat

You have a very vivid imagination.

123 posted on 11/16/2014 1:24:45 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Lizavetta
You're welcome :)

I think you are thinking of the Cynide that is in Apple Seeds and Bitter Almonds? Which is very safe despite what the FDA says.

Amygdalin has four substances. Two are glucose, the third is benzaldehyde, and the fourth is cyanide. Cyanide and benzaldehyde are poisons if they are appear as free molecules not bound within other molecular formations.

Now there are many foods, including vitamin B12, contain cyanide. But they are safe because the cyanide remains bound and locked as part of another molecule.

There is an enzyme in normal cells to catch free cyanide molecules and render them harmless by combining them with sulfur. The enzyme is rhodanese. When cyanide binds with rhodanese, it is converted to a cyanate, which is a neutral substance.

Low dosing everything does not make us immune to it. I know it works on somethings, but there is not 1 way rfr everything.

I agree though that it IS environmentally caused by our GEO engineering of our air, the Fluoride in our tap water and the GMO food. We are literally being assaulted by all three, and most people do not know or understand this.

124 posted on 11/16/2014 1:45:31 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Mase

OK when capitalism returns to the USA, let’s talk. I don’t see much capitalism like in the old days, when investors (capitalists) took risks and if it succeeded they were rewarded.

Today we have mega global corporations and banks with zero USA allegiance, and that generally despise the idea of American sovereignty. It gets in their way. They like to buy off crony politicians who then put the taxpayers on the hook for corporate incompetence, or they write a tax loophole. That’s where the term crony capitalist originated.

The only capitalists that remain as true capitalists are the smaller businesses. Big business does nothing unless crooked pols arrange for taxpayers to subsidize it one way or another. You do remember the great bailout?

Crony Corporatism is not conservatism.

I’m a believer in free markets where the consumer decides what they want based totally upon their whims, and not some Madison Ave marketing propagandist.

Sorry about the long-winded reply. Sometimes debates are like that. I don’t understand how anyone could claim that the public and consumers shouldn’t have the right to know what is in stuff that they or their children eat. Sounds more like the Jonathan Gruber rationale for Obama Care who tells us the public is too stupid to understand. I can understand why Monsanto and others want us kept clueless because we may not like what they sell us, and that is our right.


125 posted on 11/16/2014 2:05:56 PM PST by apoliticalone (Politicians work for their own self interest and their puppeteers not average Americans)
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To: Mase

Don’t forget to sprinkle some glyphosate on your pork


126 posted on 11/16/2014 2:11:04 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: apoliticalone; GailA; Mase
Sigh. As Mase pointed out TSP (is not a “paint thinner”). It is used in high concentrations as a cleaning agent and is very useful for prepping walls and trim surfaces prior to painting as it is a very good de-greasing agent and removes built up dirt like nicotine stains.

I used TPS when I was selling my old house when an inspection found traces of led paint on some of my interior window sills, just barely and I mean just barely over the recommended EPA limits.

The old paint had been covered up several times with a non-led latex paint over the years and there was absolutely no paint chipping but in order to pass the re-inspection I found after doing some research, that it was necessary for the window sills to vacuumed with a vacuum with a hepa filter and to then wash the surfaces with a high concentration of TSP, letting it dry completely before re-painting with an alkyd primer followed by a coat of latex paint. Worked like a charm. And it saved me a lot of money over contracting out for professional and completely unnecessary led paint abatement : )

But I might have also achieved the same effect by using baking soda (good old Sodium bicarbonate) the very same stuff you and just about everyone uses in baking as a leavening agent. But note that Sodium bicarbonate is also used as industrial cleaner for removing paint and corrosion in a process called “sodablasting” and similarly to TSP as a degreasing agent. Sodium bicarbonate is also used in fire extinguishers and to control fungus and mold growth. Some people also use it as a tooth paste and it is an ingredient in some mouthwashes and deodorants. Mixed with water Sodium bicarbonate can be used as an antacid to treat acid indigestion and heartburn but if ingested internally in high concentrations, it can and will most certainly kill you (so will vinegar in undiluted high concentrations BTW despite what some “alternative” medicine quacks tell you).

So tell me; why are you using an industrial cleaner, a deodorant and a known potentially lethal chemical when you bake your chocolate chip cookies or mix up a batch of pancake batter? For that matter why are you still using dihydrogen monoxide in your cooking or making your children drink it or in drinks that contain it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

And while I don’t like to reference them as a source, when they get it right when it comes to debunking a lot of internet rumors and misinformation, they get it right:

It is true that trisodium phosphate is effective as a cleaning agent, due in part to its alkalinity. Sodium bicarbonate is a similarly scary-sounding chemical compound used in heavy-duty cleaning, as an agent to detarnish silver, and to extinguish fires. But you cannot make chocolate chip cookies without the leavening power of baking soda, as it is more commonly known, and leavening is another common use for sodium phosphates. Similarly, water is a very common substance used for such tasks as cleaning, scrubbing silverware, and extinguishing fires, yet it poses no harm to consumers.

Trisodium phosphate is "generally recognized as safe" by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and is approved for use by food safety standards agencies in the European Union. TSP in high concentrations can be used for cleaning walls before painting, but it should not be conflated with "paint thinner," a solvent comprised of mineral spirits, turpentine, or acetone that is chemically unrelated to TSP.

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/tsp.asp#GkQZdc15B2UEIThz.99

127 posted on 11/16/2014 2:41:56 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate anyone who comments on my statements because it takes respect, time and effort.

My point is not that TSP is good or bad, but that as consumers we should have a right to know everything.

Transparency is most important. We should know if our 30 year relationship PCP wants to give us a vaccine with TSP or fluoride or viagra, or if our favorite grocer wants to give us an ear of corn with a smidgeon of TSP.

I’ll never understand why some seem to believe we should be kept in the dark on this because it benefits certain politicians or businesses that own them.


128 posted on 11/16/2014 3:20:45 PM PST by apoliticalone (Politicians work for their own self interest and their puppeteers not average Americans)
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To: apoliticalone
"I’ll never understand why some seem to believe we should be kept in the dark on this because it benefits certain politicians or businesses that own them."

I think you hit on it right there. Some people are all for capitalism and free market as long as it only benefits themselves.

129 posted on 11/16/2014 4:23:12 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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