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Obama Is a Republican
The American Con sevative ^ | Oct. 21, 2014 | BRUCE BARTLETT

Posted on 11/10/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by lulu16

According to exit polls in 2008, Obama ended up with 20 percent of the conservative vote. Even in 2012, after four years of relentless conservative attacks, he still got 17 percent of the conservative vote, with 11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.

They were not wrong. In my opinion, Obama has governed as a moderate conservative—essentially as what used to be called a liberal Republican before all such people disappeared from the GOP. He has been conservative to exactly the same degree that Richard Nixon basically governed as a moderate liberal, something no conservative would deny today. (Ultra-leftist Noam Chomsky recently called Nixon “the last liberal president.”)


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I saw him on Fareed Zakaria's show on CNN yesterday. This is the article he wrote that Zakaria was interested in. I don't know what to think of all of this.

Here is another quote from the man whose expertise is supply-side economics. He served as a domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and as a Treasury official under George H. W. Bush.

"I don’t expect any conservatives to recognize the truth of Obama’s fundamental conservatism for at least a couple of decades—perhaps only after a real progressive presidency. In any case, today they are too invested in painting him as the devil incarnate in order to frighten grassroots Republicans into voting to keep Obama from confiscating all their guns, throwing them into FEMA re-education camps, and other nonsense that is believed by many Republicans. But just as they eventually came to appreciate Bill Clinton’s core conservatism, Republicans will someday see that Obama was no less conservative."

1 posted on 11/10/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by lulu16
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To: lulu16

Can we give him back?


2 posted on 11/10/2014 11:55:52 AM PST by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: lulu16

So Conservative values inclde attacking the Constitution at every level. Got it. No sale.


3 posted on 11/10/2014 11:56:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: lulu16

This guy is senile.


4 posted on 11/10/2014 11:58:33 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: lulu16
In my opinion, Obama has governed as a moderate conservative

Stopped right there.

Obama hasn't governed as much as he has allowed others to steer the ship. As long as he gets to chill with a round of golf or two it's all good.

He is disinterested in actually doing the job of governing and signs off on whatever his people put on his desk. Unfortunately for us, his people tend to think the U.S. should be like every other progressive shithole in the world.

To say that his administrations policies are "moderately conservative" is delusional.

5 posted on 11/10/2014 12:01:26 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: lulu16

Always can tell a straw argument by what’s left out— he biggest issue in the election was arguably the coming amnesty for illegals and all of the Alinskyist shenanigans going on with that. The stimulus was known and admitted to by Democrats as being primarily a pay off to public sector unions.


6 posted on 11/10/2014 12:04:52 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: lulu16

I think he has lost his mind.

Obama’s economic tax policy was to raise taxes, especially on the rich and businesses. What is conservative about that?

Obama’s fiscal monetary policy was to spend like two super-carriers of drunken sailors. He had the fed printing money so fast they couldn’t cut down trees fast enough to make the paper for the money. What is conservative about that?

Obama’s national policy was to nationalize healthcare, get the government to buy stock, essentially controlling interest, in GM. What is conservative about that?

Obama’s Social policy is as liberal as any president who has been elected. He won’t even enforce the law regarding border security. What is conservative about that?

Obama’s military/foreign policy is to apologize, reduce America’s influence in the world and appear much less powerful. What is conservative about that?

Bartlett has lost his mind. I can not think of a single position Obama has taken that is “conservative”.


7 posted on 11/10/2014 12:05:41 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: lulu16

This does NOT prove Obama is a conservative.

All it proves is that Nixon was a liberal. But I already knew that.


8 posted on 11/10/2014 12:06:56 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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Doesn’t even prove that....only proves this dude is off his friggin rocker.


9 posted on 11/10/2014 12:17:27 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: lulu16

If this writer things Obola is a conservative, how would he define a liberal progressive?


10 posted on 11/10/2014 12:20:09 PM PST by Veto!
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To: lulu16

this whole website (The American Conservative) is a croc.


11 posted on 11/10/2014 12:21:17 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: lulu16
According to exit polls in 2008, Obama ended up with 20 percent of the conservative vote. Even in 2012, after four years of relentless conservative attacks, he still got 17 percent of the conservative vote, with 11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.

Vastly more likely people (like me) lie to exit pollsters to poison the very idea of polling. Just tell me what you believe and what you intend to do and I'll decide to vote for or against you. Don't try to figure what lies would be best to tell me like I'm a tipsy barfly at closing time.

12 posted on 11/10/2014 12:30:11 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

> this whole website (The American Conservative) is a croc.

They liberal progressives surely wouldn’t set up a conservative sounding website to push their nonsense would they?.../s


13 posted on 11/10/2014 12:30:21 PM PST by jsanders2001
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oh no, certainly not...... /s


14 posted on 11/10/2014 12:34:21 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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“11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.”

I cannot imagine 1% of Tea Party voters casting for Obama. Tea Party folks recoil in horror at Obama’s policies. That quote is seriously flawed information.


15 posted on 11/10/2014 12:34:55 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: lulu16

In got it, the idea is to dump the Kenyan communist off on conservatives.

NO SALE here. In fact someone should remove this garbage from FR.


16 posted on 11/10/2014 12:35:09 PM PST by dforest
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Does this sound like a website run by true conservatives?

“In 2012, David Brooks characterized the magazine as a paleoconservative publication, writing, “The American Conservative has become one of the more dynamic spots on the political Web. Writers like Rod Dreher and Daniel Larison tend to be suspicious of bigness: big corporations, big government, a big military, concentrated power and concentrated wealth. Writers at that Web site, and at the temperamentally aligned Front Porch Republic, treasure tight communities and local bonds. They’re alert to the ways capitalism can erode community. Dispositionally, they are more Walker Percy than Pat Robertson.”[14]”

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Conservative


17 posted on 11/10/2014 12:35:28 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: lulu16

Just wanted to find out how Obama’s brand of conservatism bodes for their party on the federal level. This is from the NY Times today. Cohn says we win the presidency and both houses next term;

“By picking up at least a dozen House seats in the elections last Tuesday, the Republicans cemented a nearly unassailable majority that could last for a generation, or as long as today’s political divides between North and South, urban and rural, young and old, and white and nonwhite endure.

Democrats might well reclaim the Senate and hold the presidency in 2016. But any Democratic hopes of enacting progressive policies on issues like climate change and inequality will face the reality of a House dominated by conservative Republicans. The odds that the Republicans will hold the Senate and seize the presidency are better than the odds that Democrats will win the House, giving the Republicans a better chance than Democrats of enacting their agenda.

After all of the remaining races are resolved, the G.O.P. will finish with about 249 seats. The Democrats would need to flip 32 seats to reclaim the chamber, but just 10 Republicans hail from districts with a Democratic Cook partisan voting index, a statistic to measure how far a congressional district leans toward the Republican or Democratic Party, compared with the national average. Because so many Republicans represent conservative districts, the G.O.P. might even retain the House in a “wave” election, like the ones that swept Democrats to power in 2006 and brought Republicans back to power in 2010.”


18 posted on 11/10/2014 12:35:50 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: dforest

I did it because I was shocked that this man was a domestic policy advisor to President Reagan.


19 posted on 11/10/2014 12:37:04 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

Bruce Bartlett is a moron on this.
How he came to this idiocy is beyond me.
Obama is what he always was and it was all there for everyone to see, he is a Committed Marxist pure and simple.


20 posted on 11/10/2014 12:38:02 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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