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Mormon Church Admits Founder Joseph Smith ... Married a 14-year-old (Truncated Title)
Daily Mail ^ | October 26, 2014 06:55 GMT | Kieran Corcoran (AP)

Posted on 10/25/2014 11:04:54 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists

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To: entropy12
1000 years ago... Average Life expectancy was very short, south of age 30.Not getting into any other parts of your post but this point is one that is generally misunderstood.

Short Average Life Expectancy numbers are driven mainly by high infant mortality. Adults commonly lived much longer than 30. 1000 years ago we weren't freaking Neanderthals. (Just setting the record straight.)

81 posted on 10/26/2014 9:10:47 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: entropy12
1000 years ago... Average Life expectancy was very short, south of age 30.

Not getting into any other parts of your post but this point is one that is generally misunderstood.

Short Average Life Expectancy numbers are driven mainly by high infant mortality. Adults commonly lived much longer than 30. 1000 years ago we weren't freaking Neanderthals. (Just setting the record straight.)

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82 posted on 10/26/2014 9:12:41 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: elcid1970
the LDS church’s latest admission about their randy founder is deck chairs on the Titanic, in my opinion.

I agree, and for the reasons you cite.

83 posted on 10/26/2014 9:14:53 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Morgana


84 posted on 10/26/2014 9:44:57 AM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Ditter

” I don’t have a high opinion of the whole cult.”

That is the beauty of America, you don’t have to join if you don’t want to!


85 posted on 10/26/2014 10:12:08 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Absolutely! and I don’t have to apologize for my opinion either!


86 posted on 10/26/2014 11:18:22 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Seriously, lots of people married early back then. My own grandmother married at 16 and it was not unusual. She had already finished high school by that age.


87 posted on 10/26/2014 11:22:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: entropy12

I have Mormon friends and they are very dear and generous people. All religions have weird stuff in them, mine, yours, all of em.


88 posted on 10/26/2014 11:25:19 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: samtheman

1000 years ago there was no penicillin, no quinine, no way to fix appendicitis, ulcers, tonsillitis etc with simple surgery.
More people died with Pneumonia than any other cause. It made lot of sense to get girls married early when they were able to conceive.


89 posted on 10/26/2014 11:32:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (Marxist, race baiter, community organizer boy king is 10 times worse than any RINO)
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To: Yaelle
My own grandmother married at 16 and it was not unusual. She had already finished high school by that age.

That would have been quite a feat, considering that graduating from high school in the early 20th century was a true achievement, demonstrated by the fact that most people did not accomplish it.

As I wrote earlier, my great-grandmother married at 16, but I know she didn't graduate from high school, and it's likely she never even went to high school; her grandson, my father, was the second in the family to accomplish that, back in '41, with his oldest brother being the first.

But there's another point hidden here, that no one has said as far as I can tell. Mormonism has a sordid past, but a 21st century nation of Mormons, at least from a worldly perspective--what happens to them after they die is a separate issue--would probably form the closest thing to a perfect society. How Mormonism got from Joseph Smith to, say, Mitt and Anne Romney, is little short of miraculous. Contrast that with, say, Islam, which began as a Dark Ages cult, and is in the process of returning to its Dark-Aged practices, to the extent that it ever left them throughout the last 1400 years.

90 posted on 10/26/2014 11:33:06 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: entropy12
1000 years ago there was no penicillin, no quinine, no way to fix appendicitis, ulcers, tonsillitis etc with simple surgery.

1000 years ago? It was the same 90 years ago.

I would add that I'm not on SSA yet, but I was part of the last generation of children to live in fear of polio: I remember my parents having a thick medical guidebook, the size of a college dictionary, and a whole chapter was set side to provide information on how to avoid polio, how to diagnose it as early as possible, and what was likely to happen to those who became juvenile polio patients.

91 posted on 10/26/2014 11:38:50 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Yet another similarity between islam and mormonism...

Have you found any evidence about Mormons beheading non-believers of Mormononism? Any evidence Mormons stone women to death for adultery? Does the Mormon religion holy book teach that they would get 72 virgins in heaven by fighting religious wars and dying in the process? If above is true, then you are correct. If not, you are grasping at the straws.

92 posted on 10/26/2014 11:40:26 AM PDT by entropy12 (Marxist, race baiter, community organizer boy king is 10 times worse than any RINO)
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To: entropy12

That makes sense. 1000 years ago.

But still, life expectancy is influenced by infant mortality.

“Life expectancy differs from maximum life span. Life expectancy is an average, computed over all people including those who die shortly after birth, those who die in early adulthood in childbirth or in wars, and those who live unimpeded until old age, whereas lifespan is an individual-specific concept and maximum lifespan is an upper bound rather than an average.” - wikipedia

I don’t think human lifespan has changed in 40,000 years.


93 posted on 10/26/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: entropy12

That makes sense. 1000 years ago.

But still, life expectancy is influenced by infant mortality.

“Life expectancy differs from maximum life span. Life expectancy is an average, computed over all people including those who die shortly after birth, those who die in early adulthood in childbirth or in wars, and those who live unimpeded until old age, whereas lifespan is an individual-specific concept and maximum lifespan is an upper bound rather than an average.” - wikipedia

I don’t think human lifespan has changed in 40,000 years.


94 posted on 10/26/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: dragonblustar

No multiple legal spouses that I can find.


95 posted on 10/26/2014 12:32:21 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: alexander_busek

What a silly person you are, you should try to focus on the topics rather than play the schoolyard girl.


96 posted on 10/26/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Brother Cracker

You will have to explain that one to me. Looks like a pic you artistically attained from JoeProBono.


97 posted on 10/26/2014 1:38:09 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: eclecticEel

You are sure about that?


98 posted on 10/26/2014 1:40:18 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: katana; defconw

“), but I have known Mormons who were among the nicest people you could imagine and a few who were and I’m sure still are outright lying bastards. “

I’ll drink to that.

“How intelligent people could believe in a religion founded by a man with Smith’s history or gullibly accept the whole Golden Book, Angel Moroni (some jokes just write themselves), ............”

Well if you are told this since a child. What else would you believe? It’s like the story of the baby elephant. When an elephant is a baby they stake it’s let to the ground and he pulls and pulls but can’t pull the stake out. When the elephant is grown they chain his let to the stake and he just stands there. Mind you he can pull the whole circus tent down with his strength but in his mind he can not. He was taught as a baby that he can’t

All religions are like that really. The day I got up and said “I’m not buying this anymore” and left taking down the circus tent with me it shocked the clowns in my last church.


99 posted on 10/26/2014 1:51:35 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: jocon307
I know that my young daughter and I used to take quite a long bus ride home every day. The only time anyone ever got up to give us seats were two Mormon missionary guys. This was in Jersey City.

I think that's something to do with Jersey.

One day a few years back I was traveling from Jersey to Florida. Old women got on the full bus. I was the only one who offered her my seat.

On the shuttle bus in Tampa, an old woman got on the full bus. Just about every man in the bus stood up to offer her a seat.

100 posted on 10/26/2014 3:29:20 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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