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Keys To Ebola Containment
FoxNews.com, The Associated Press ^ | September 28, 2014 | vanity

Posted on 09/28/2014 1:41:44 PM PDT by Patriot777

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To: anton

You sound like quite the inspirational guy, our GIs stationed in Africa and our Christian missionaries and CDC workers don’t rank very high on your scale.


81 posted on 09/29/2014 12:31:03 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Yea, they shouldn’t be there either. How many GI’s do we have stationed in West Africa again? I can’t imagine why there are any. And, how many of them did you say had got the virus such that we needed to extract them?

As for Christian (and all other missionaries) they take their chances. They are not there on behalf of US interests. So, God can extract them from their self-inflicted peril.


82 posted on 09/29/2014 12:47:36 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton

If you want to block Americans and our GIs from coming home for medical care, you better figure out some way to do it, because it isn’t happening.


83 posted on 09/29/2014 12:52:29 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: flamberge
That is where the ethical problems begin with this sort of research. The only definitive experiments must be done on humans. Some of them will likely die from the experiments.

That is exactly how the smallpox/cowpox vaccination was developed.

IIRC the original patient was a volunteer - the Doctor vaccinated himself and then exposed himself to smallpox.

Something like that could be necessary with Ebola.

A major reason why we do not have Ebola vaccines or drugs is that we simply cannot do the phase 3 efficacy testing in humans. Even the phase 1 safety testing has proven problematic. The FDA has an animal rule--but even for that to apply, we'd need more data on how Ebola affects humans.

When Dr. Jenner invented the smallpox vaccine, he had some observational data to back up his self-experiment. He had noted that milkmaids who got cowpox never came down with smallpox. There is no such observational data to support the testing of Ebola Reston as a potential vaccine for Ebola Zaire. The two viruses are found in different areas of the world--Reston is in Asia, Zaire is in Africa. Testing of cross-reactivity cannot be done in monkeys, since they get fatal illness from both strains. Furthermore, even though the only people who have had Reston did not get sick, there is no guarantee that it does not sicken other people.

From a drug development standpoint, Ebola is really difficult.

84 posted on 09/29/2014 4:01:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ansel12

I said quarantine them. Don’t you know anything about contagious disease management?


85 posted on 09/29/2014 5:18:26 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton

They do isolate/quarantine them, in the world’s most advanced isolation treatments clinics, so what are you talking about?


86 posted on 09/29/2014 7:47:18 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I assume English is not your primary language.

I said that returning citizens should be quarantined. You said how are you going to block re-entry.

I said read my post again, moron. Or, at least that’s what I should have said.


87 posted on 09/29/2014 3:33:39 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton
I think people who go to Afica and catch some horrid disease (or, get themselves stranded in the ocean or an a mountain, or whatnot) need to have made their own contingency plans. I am sick of every person who strays into some problem abroad dialing 911 and asking for the US military to come and get them. Screw them. If they thought taking their medical skills to Africa was a good idea, let them live with the consequences. I’d block all persons from re-entry to the US until they clear quarantine. At their cost and expense.

In other words you are just an idiot, with no real input, just a troll personality that wants to vent on the internet.

88 posted on 09/29/2014 3:53:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Could you go to Africa and help with the Ebola victims? I think you would do well there. I have a couple of masks I would give you.


89 posted on 09/29/2014 3:58:52 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton

Like I pointed out, you are trolling, with nothing real to say.


90 posted on 09/29/2014 4:00:26 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

“Like I pointed out, you are trolling, with nothing real to say.”

And, I am sure this is one of your very best posts.


91 posted on 09/29/2014 4:07:01 PM PDT by anton
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To: ansel12

I assume English is not your primary language.

I said that returning citizens should be quarantined. You said how are you going to block re-entry.

I said read my post again, moron. Or, at least that’s what I should have said.


Funny how this stuff just seems to happen. Here were were arguing about quarantine for US citizens returning from West Africa and the next day one pops up who managed to go to the hospital with symptoms after flying in from Liberia and was sent home to infect others. Brilliant. Our national disease control scheme at work.

For my part, I’d block all re-entry iuntil a quarantine period passed with no symptoms.


92 posted on 09/30/2014 4:57:06 PM PDT by anton
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