Posted on 09/28/2014 1:41:44 PM PDT by Patriot777
It depends on what you are talking about, if you mean special isolation aircraft to be flown to a special isolation unit, then there isn’t a problem.
The Army came in, disposed of the animals, and disinfected the house.
There sure is a lot of ignorance in that post.
“”Then, when USAMRIID (The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases), was conducting experiments with monkeys in Reston, Virginia, the entire group of primates had to be destroyed and the facility decontaminated and torn down—a mutation had occurred, which was called “Ebola Reston”.””
False.
“”1.) Education-””—” [Note: the populaces are killing aid workers, so this many not even be efforted.]”
The military is hoping to educate 500 aid workers per week.
“”3.) Seal all known affected African states borders; no air, sea or land travel, period.””
Really? Just put entire nations and economies into total quarantine?
“”4.) Because the unbelievably millions of Africans within the areas of the ebolavirus outbreaks are very likely either freshly infected (21-day incubation) or dying of this pestilence, the populations will have to be completely wiped out.”” “with nuclear weapons”
So you are TOTALLY INSANE AND A BUFFOON PSYCHO.
It just continues with you crazy man rantings.
What a nut case.
This is from one of your past posts:
**”As a closing note: I believe there are inter-dimensional, atmospheric beings with incredible physical and technological superiority, which I think are “fallen angels”, or possibly fallen angel-human hybrids called “Nephilim” in the Bible. I also believe the reports of astronauts that orbited the Earth, went to the Moon, flew the Space Shuttle, stayed on the Space Stations MIR and the ISS—when they talked about seeing things in space they could only begin to explain. As far as the “known” universe and all the dimensions that God created, there is no telling what else could be in existence; I do feel that He has placed a barrier on any other beings that are vastly superior to us, so that they cannot “invade” us or wipe us out.”**
That strain WAS airborne. However humans did not seem to contract that version.
With the virus reproducing by the billions in a host, the chance for a seven protein DNA to mutate is huge. One will mutate to become airborne, while not hostile to humans. The next mutation may be airborne and fatal.
This potential mutation becomes more likely with every single case.
With viruses like Ebola the danger is in the speed and complete takeover of the hosts.
At Army instructions and based on the Army’s testing of what they were running into, most of the dealing of the animals was through the veterinarians.
“In October 1989, 100 crab-eating macaques were imported from Ferlite Farms, located in Calamba, Laguna south of Manila, Philippines, and ended up at the Reston Primate Quarantine Unit. At that time, the Reston facility already had 500 macaque monkeys housed in their facility. Shortly after their arrival, scientists started noticing an abnormally high mortality rate; by the beginning of November 1989, 29 of the 100 monkeys had died. In a post-mortem examination, the on-site veterinarian, Dan Dalgard, noticed that the interior of the body looked very strange with a massively swollen spleen and blood inside the intestines. He suspected that the deaths were caused by simian hemorrhagic fever or SHFV.
Reston’s veterinarian then sent samples of the tissues to the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases or USAMRIID, located north of Reston at Fort Detrick, Maryland. USAMRIID is the only laboratory in the Defense system that can study high risk viruses that require maximum biohazard containment. The virus that caused the SHFV was considered to require a Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) designation, the highest level of containment. When working in a BSL-4 lab, scientists wear a Hazmat suit and have a self-contained oxygen system. They work in negatively pressured room to prevent viruses from escaping and must go through a series of showers before entering and exiting. In the case of the SHFV filovirus, the veterinarian at the Reston facility sent the frozen samples to the USAMRIID wrapped in tin foil. By the time the samples arrived at their destination, they had thawed and fluids were dripping from the packaging.
Meanwhile, back at the Reston facility, veterinarians euthanized the remaining monkeys from the October shipment, however, despite those precautions, monkeys in other rooms began to show the same symptoms and die.
USAMRIID analyzed the Reston virus and determined that the cause of death was Ebola, the same strain that had caused the outbreaks in Zaire and Sudan in 1976. In those outbreaks, more than 600 cases were noted with a mortality rate of 53 percent in Sudan and 88 percent in Zaire. By the time USAMRIID had ascertained that the Ebola - Zaire virus was responsible, six weeks had passed since the monkeys started dying in Reston, Virginia. A program was put in place by USAMRIID, the Centers for Disease Control and the Virginia Department of Health to prevent the virus from spreading. When USAMRIID staff arrived for a walkthrough of the Reston facility, they found staff and animal handlers were still working without taking precautions. The decision was made to euthanize all of the facility’s monkeys, however, during the process, a single monkey escaped. It took the better part of two days to catch and euthanize the escapee, an incident that could have led to further infections. For the following eleven days, the Reston Primate Quarantine Unit was decontaminated using bleach. Decontamination also included a three day period when the building was filled with formaldehyde fumes to ensure complete cleansing.
Of the 1787 staff members who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston facility, only two were hospitalized. It was also found that six people who had worked with the primates had serologic evidence (i.e. antibodies) of an ebola infection. Both hospitalized staff survived their illnesses. Scientists later found that the Reston virus was a new variant, now known as EBO-R, that had slight genetic differences from the other known ebola viruses. An additional six individuals had In the Reston variant, there was a high death rate among infected monkeys, however, it was not deadly to humans.’
yeah bcause it’s impossible for the special aircraft or the isolation unit to have problems. cdc ignores its own protocols at high security labs where this kind of crap is.
no, i mean don’t accept anyone in. period. far more secure than letting in “special” planes and following “special” procedures. if we’ve learned anythng the people who know the procedures do not follow them.
Yes. Really.
We are well past the point where any lesser measures can be effective. The health-care systems in the hot zone West African nations are basically gone. It is too late.
Sending in the US Military to build a few thousand hospital beds in the next few months will do absolutely nothing to change the outcome. The victim population doubles every two-to-three weeks. The current victim base is estimated by ex NGO workers at 20,000 people (4x the official Government figures).
The epidemic is going to burn through those countries until there is no longer enough people alive to sustain transmission.
For starters, air traffic from the affected regions should be curtailed now.
You have a cute standard, “impossible”.
For national security, do not be trying to convince the world’s terrorists and our enemies that we all they need to totally dominate us is bio agents, or even threatening us with something like non weaponized Ebola.
America has not become so primitive that we cannot bring in a sick American doctor or soldier for the best medical treatment, in our safest clinics.
They will not do that, at this time. It would have to be much, much more worse for govts to do that. Rightly or wrongly, that is how it is.
You read post 24 about nuking people who need medical care, and space aliens, and you just breeze right by it.
You agree with the things this nutcase posted?
you are the one saying there’d be no problems.
simple thing is not to let known/suspected infected people back into the country, period.
i don’t trust the experts to follow proper protocols because it’s been proven time and again they don’t.
There aren’t a problem, except in your panicked, terrified imagination.
There is no reason that a sick American doctor cannot be flown here and treated under the most advanced conditions on earth.
Do you honestly believe that it is from one of these four advanced isolation units that you think our problems with Ebola are going to originate?
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then. Even a raving lunatic (which I believe the original poster may be), may correctly observe when the sun has risen.
A regional quarantine of the hot zone nations is the last defense before outbreaks in other continents render the entire discussion moot.
..After which time it won't matter what the nutcases said.
One reason the world is getting involved is to prevent a collapse of the African economy, and to avoid a collapse of the countries involved and a flood of millions of refugees.
But if you want to station a few American divisions on their borders to close off those armed nations, you can always send a letter to someone, suggesting it.
That is certainly true.
There are 4 centers in the United States that have isolation facilities capable of safely treating Ebola patients. Perhaps there are 2 other classified military installations. At most we can accommodate a dozen patients at one time.
We have reportedly sent 3000 men into the hot zone to render assistance to the local Governments. If 40-60 of them come down with Ebola, there will be no place to return them.
We can treat patients at the highest facilities we have, we can expand them, and then we can set up what we need, for instance we have 20 isolation centers in the United States, and I haven’t seen the figure that 12 is the most that we can treat at once in those 4 super centers.
In your fantasy and one which the terrorists would love to be true, we are close to helpless against infectious disease, and without the means to deal with them.
According to you, our problems with Ebola are going to originate from our 4 special treatment clinics built for this purpose, have you decided that wasn’t rational, or are you still pushing that claim?
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Nonsense.
If, given a variation in estimated survival rates from 10 to 40%, even with the most primitive care, the disease runs its course and everyone in the region is exposed, this would entail murdering millions of people who had been exposed to and survived the disease.
Sorry, not a viable solution--nor, by any means, a necessary one.
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