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Posted on 09/28/2014 11:00:00 AM PDT by george76
Police received a call for an “unknown trouble” at a Toronto Community Housing Corp. home at Winchester Street and Rose Avenue in Cabbagetown, where they saw bystanders “screaming and yelling” while trying to pry the pit bull away from the shih tzu.
“The policeman was hitting the dog so hard with his baton that it flung out of his hands but the pit bull would not let go,” said Samantha Thornton, a resident in the area. She said the owner of the shih tzu was in “hysterics.”
According to Ms. Thornton, police shot the dog twice in the leg and when it still didn’t release the shih tzu, they shot it in the head.
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Residents in the neighbourhood told the National Post that pit bulls were bred in the building. Pit bull breeding has been illegal since the 2005 Dog Owner’s Liability Act and owners can face a $10,000 fine and six months jail time for noncompliance.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...
All pitbulls should be shot on sight. All pitbull owners should be imprisoned without trial.
A large part of that is because there are so many 'pit bulls' that there are irresponsible owners or breeders who are breeding for aggression, training for aggression, and not socializing their dogs.
A large part of that is because there are 'bully' breeds that are derived in whole or in part from breeds that were once used to bait bulls and bears, and thirty-five years of breeding for bad traits has undone a hundred years of breeding for good traits.
A large part of that is because while there is only one Pit Bull (the American Pit Bull Terrier), there are three breeds recognized as pit bulls by most professionals (American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, and Staffordshire Terriers), and four breeds by others (American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Terriers, and American Bulldogs), and more than a dozen breeds or mixes mistakingly identified by the police or media as 'pit bulls' in initial reports that later turn out to be something other than an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, or American Bulldog.
We DO have a 'pit bull' problem. However, when you looks at the deaths caused by Rottweilers, Chows, Malamutes, or Huskies, you're looking at a single breed. Then you look at the deaths caused by 'pit bulls,' you're looking at deaths primarily caused by four breeds and mixes, with another dozen breeds responsible for one or two deaths.
We DO have a 'pit bull' problem, but 'pit bull' is a catch-all phrase just like AR-15 or AK-47.
The majority of types of dogs bite and release but pits have been bred to hold on - this is a prized trait among pit bull owners and breeders that they call “gameness.This is precisely my point: they have been bred by unscrupulous breeders to be dangerous, vicious fighting dogs. This has affected the "breed" on a massive scale and is meant to turn out unstable dogs by the tens of thousands, and it does. Millions when you consider all the animals that are then produced by those animals. It is the reason so many "pitbulls" today are dangerous. However, only the "cream of the crop" go on to become fighting dogs. The rest are surrendered to shelters or abandoned. None of them, or few of them are suitable for adoption. These are the dogs we hear about. Remove the human filth from the equation who are breeding them or brutally abusing them (as you rightfully point out, the dogs are essentially wild animals by the time those two groups finish with them), and the breed would return to its more docile roots.
Let me pose you a question: Do you really believe that if every last pitbull on Earth were exterminated tomorrow, dog fighting people wouldn't turn their attention to the next best prospect for becoming the top fighting dog in the world (Saint Bernards, Presa Carnarios, Caucasian Mountain Dogs, or perhaps something that today is a little more domestic, etc.) and in a few short generations completely ruin it in the public eye as well, breeding it for stronger jaws, fearlessness, "gameness," unpredictability, etc. Let me tell you, if they choose Presas or Caucasians, say, public safety will REALLY be in jeopardy and we'll all be talking about the good old days of the pitbull.
Singapore has the most rich people concentration in the world.
That is more than Switzerland, and all oil rich countries!
One out of every 6 Singapore citizens are millionaires. Their infra structure makes ours look like a 3rd world country. I spent several days of vacation this year in Singapore and saw everything first hand. I felt safe strolling streets after dark. I never saw any trash on the streets or graffiti on buildings. I can live with that type of society.
You want to strive for something else, I will not hold you back.
Send us a postcard.
You can concentrate on punishing people after an attack,
I’ll concentrate on educating people to prevent an attack.
Sure you have bad breeders. You also have a breed which has been bred for fighting for several hundred years.
Typically a solution to the pitbull grip is a squirt of pepper spray right up its nose. Hitting it with objects just aggravates it.
Right, but they aren’t “locking”, just really dang strong and unwilling to release. Its how they’ve been bred.
“Grab both hind legs and pull. Even a bull dog will turn loose usually.”
I don’t have any reason to doubt that. But what do you do when he does release and you are holding onto his hind legs? Talk about a “tiger by the tail”.
In the incident I saw it was the owner who did it. This was about 40 years ago, before anyone knew what a pitbull is. A friend of mine owned one, and a few of us were at a park. My friend knew his dog, and used a thick belt for a leash wrapped around his wrist. He had to use the restroom so he gave the leash to another friend and told him to wrap it around his wrist and HOLD IT TIGHT, because if he sees another dog he’ll try to go after it. Well the doofus he gave the leash to starts talking to someone, not paying attention, when a girl with a young German Shepard walks by. Of course the dog rips leash from his hand and locks onto the Shepard’s leg. The owner comes running from the restroom, grabs a 16 oz beer from somebody’s hand, grabs his dog’s ear and pours it down. Once the dog let go he picked it up, carried it to his car, threw it in and drove away. It was really a horrible scene, but it opened my eyes to what a pit can do.
No. You don't have a breed. At a minimum, you have three breeds, and if you used only those three breeds, then you don't end up with all of the 'pit bull' deaths each year. Deaths by bullmastiffs, bullmassadors (bullmastiff/labrador retriever mixes), American bulldogs, American bullies, Alapaha true blue bulldogs, unknown mixed breeds, Cane Corsos, Presa Canarios, and other breeds are first credited by police or the media as pit bulls and corrected later.
Try these two tests:
All of the dogs shown are purebred breeds and the American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Terrier are not shown, although those two breeds most resemble the American Pit Bull Terrier and are considered 'pit bulls.' In one of these test, 72% of people who take the take can't identify the American Pit Bull Terrier, although the photo is a prototypical photo of an American Pit Bull Terrier.
You can see why these other breeds can be misidentified as 'pit bulls.' Many of these dogs are also fighting or protection dogs and can be dangerous.
This is the problem with breed-specific legislation. We have a 'pit bull' problem in the U.S. that involves more than pit bulls.
When I was in high school we raised pits and sold them. We always cut their tails so they couldn’t be fought. We had a male pit and a dachshund that would fight. My dad would put the water hose right in their face. They’d both break and run. Lol
Cabbagetown used to be a poor area a long time ago but it got gentrified and became a yuppie magnet. It got that name because the poor residents at the time used to grow cabbages in their front yards. Toronto community housing is subsidized welfare. No doubt about that. That said while there are now iffy areas in Toronto they are not exactly like US city ghettos. They are seldom extensive and sprawling. Last week I went to some Lexus dealer for an unveiling of a new model. It was a multi story complex and across the street was a similar Mercedes dealership. These were located literally beside another Toronto community housing complex known as Regent Park. I found the side by side odd myself but that is just the way things are in Toronto.
IO spent a few months in Toronto back in the sixties....
I was supposed to be preparing to be in the Toronto Pop Festival....but it fell through.
It didnt appear to me to have the sort of sprawling “poor” sections like there were in Detroit.
trouble at a Toronto Community Housing
You are doing a horrible job at preventing attacks.
Highest murder rate in Western World! You got your work cut out for ya. Send me a card when you have accomplished something.
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Heard about this idea. Tried that once. It doesn't work.
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