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IBM increases the power of the sun ( 60% ...This could change things)
Fudzilla ^ | Friday, 26 September 2014 08:55 | Nick Farrell

Posted on 09/26/2014 9:00:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach



Because you can never have too much tan

Biggish Blue boffins have come up with a way of increasing the sun's radiation by 2,000 times while also producing fresh water and air conditioning. IBM and Switzerland-based Airlight Energy today announced a new parabolic dish uses a dense array of water-cooled solar chips that can convert 80 per cent of the sun's radiation into useful energy.

Dubbed the “Concentrator PhotoVoltaics (CPV) system the gear which looks like a 33-foot-high sunflower, can generate 12 kilowatts of electrical power and 20 kilowatts of heat on a sunny day — enough to power several average homes. Bruno Michel, the project's lead scientists at IBM Research in Switzerland did not say what it would do in England and Ireland where sun is something that other countries have.

The mirrors concentrate the sun on the chips to produce electricity. Normally, the chips would ignite, since they reach temperatures of 1,500 degrees Celsius. IBM scientists are taking a page from the supercomputer playbook to keep them at a relatively cool 105 degrees with a water radiator system.

The dense array of multi-junction photovoltaic (PV) chips, mirrors and the electrical receiver are encased in a large inflated transparent plastic enclosure to protect the system from rain or hail.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: climatechange; energy; hitech
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To: kevkrom

Same here. So far solar has not been practical for us, even with our huge electric bills. I would love for someone to come up with a simple, cheaper, working system.


21 posted on 09/26/2014 9:45:25 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is not a new idea but a good one. The problem is that at smaller scales for a single home it is hard to make all the equipment payback in a short time.

This should have virtually no impact on birds compared to Ivanpah which has thousands of times more mirror area and great distances covered for birds to fly through.


22 posted on 09/26/2014 9:51:56 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IBM has lots of experience cooling chips inside mainframe computers. I saw a grid of 192 processors each with a metal rod in contact that conducted heat to a coolant fluid. This has long been the limiting factor in concentrated photovotaic conversion.

The intermiitancy of sun light problem remains.

Plus what controlling entity is going to allow ugly parabolics on the landscape?


23 posted on 09/26/2014 9:52:13 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k
The intermiitancy of sun light problem remains.

In my opinion, solar has the potential to be effective at shaving off the electrical peaks associated with cooling during the heat of the day. As a base load it is quite difficult without significant advances in storage cost/efficiency.

24 posted on 09/26/2014 9:58:17 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: sheana

It’ll be feasible if there’s a way to capture and store both the electricity and heat efficiently. Typically, you don’t need a lot of excess heat on bright, sunny days, but you might at night.

A 12Kw system would be ideal for one or two homes, if excess generation can be stored during the day for use at night. Offgrid rural users might be able do some kind of pumped storage, if acreage and topography allow, to supplement a moderate battery/inverter system. Less rural users would need a large enough battery array to handle the nighttime load. Suburban users could just couple to the grid and make money during the day when rates are highest and buy back at night when rates are lower.


25 posted on 09/26/2014 9:59:23 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: kevkrom

see http://www.builditsolar.com/ for do it yourself ideas
see http://sunelec.com/ for cheap PV

You want dirt cheap redneck hot water - get this http://www.uline.com/BL_2105/Black-Heavy-Duty-Poly-Tubing
Go to Hardware store and get hose clamps and adapters to feed it with a garden hose (just don’t drink it). Lay it out in the sun. On a 70 degree day I got 140 degree water really fast. 1500 feet for $69 is enough hot water to heat a pool. I use about 20 feet rolled up to take camping with a stripped shower head. Nothing like a hot shower when camping. :-)


26 posted on 09/26/2014 10:00:02 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: cicero2k

I HOPE that there is a “scram” like system to move a counter mirror into the beam when main “core” coolant fails else the cost of a simple water leak is going to be pretty high.


27 posted on 09/26/2014 10:04:08 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

yes.. about 1/2 the year.


28 posted on 09/26/2014 10:04:43 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: MrB
A little start-up called Maxout Renewables is already doing something like this. Here's the link.
29 posted on 09/26/2014 10:07:39 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: thackney

Expect utilities to slap a surcharge on solar system homes. Their argument is; we extended lines to your home and keep the juice flowing based on your continued use.


30 posted on 09/26/2014 10:28:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m working on a dark concentrator myself. It seems to work pretty well but it sucks the electricity out of the house. :-(


31 posted on 09/26/2014 10:31:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Honestly, I can agree with a minimum charge. If you stay connected, you are trying to get their infrastructure as your back up to your own system. Backup should not be provided for free.


32 posted on 09/26/2014 10:37:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Billthedrill

We built new in 2001 and put in a ground source heat/AC system. Power bill goes down in summer months.
There are four 200 foot wells under our driveway bringing in 59 degree liquid year round.
The floor in the main level has thermal heat from the GSHP.


33 posted on 09/26/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I looked hard at that when I moved into my current place. Was it expensive?


34 posted on 09/26/2014 10:39:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
A bit more than twice the cost of a traditional electric or gas furnace. Payback was less than five years, based on estimated costs of similar homes of the same era.
Check out “Waterfurnace.” There are a half dozen ground source system makers in the US. Make sure the HVAC guy has done several installs.
35 posted on 09/26/2014 10:46:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Many thanks. I intend to do just that.


36 posted on 09/26/2014 10:48:43 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As a supplimental power generation point, these look fairly promising. However, in order to understand whether or not they make sense, you have to ask some specific questions:

Things like this might be useful for easing the burden on the grid of peak daylight times, but they are less than useful as you near dusk, and until some time after dawn. If it makes economic sense, then by all means, deploy the suckers. If it doesn't then it's good research that I applaud and await further developments.

37 posted on 09/26/2014 11:04:30 AM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: kevkrom

My reaction exactly.


38 posted on 09/26/2014 11:11:10 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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To: Billthedrill

We studied several options while planning the house and a GSHP stood out as a proven system with hundreds of installs. If they’re being sold in Minnesota, they should work in your climate.


39 posted on 09/26/2014 11:36:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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