Posted on 09/17/2014 10:36:40 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
Did Bammy really assure that the USAF would not be asked to put boots on the ground in Iraq?
Just as a FYI, Air Force special operators were some of the first folks into Iraq and Afghanistan months before the start of the official war. Combat Controllers and Forward Air Controllers are frequently behind enemy lines guiding tactical aircraft to their targets. In my 22 year AF career I spent a year attached to the US Marines and 3 years attached to a US Army unit.
Obama, Kerry and the Sec Defense have not even defined the enemy much less how they are organized and in types of units, their most likely course/s of action etc. Until one can define the enemy their location, etc, one cannot even define their mission as in OPORD. Obama and Kerry talk about all these countries that are going to help. We have a word for this. It is called a cluster F. I estimate it will take three US Infantry Divisions to defeat 30K.
Zero is doing what he intended - reducing America to international ridicule and contempt.
US!
I do understand that. I was refering to ‘troops’ or Bammy’s ‘boots on the ground’. Not Special Ops.......I figure they are EVERYWHERE there is trouble.
“USAF doesn’t generally put boot on the ground in hostile territory”
You’d be wrong about that. The USAF is usually the FIRST boots on the ground. The USAF doesn’t usually allow recruiting posters or other poser type of PR for their specops troops, but they’ve got many never mentioned in public before.
“USAF doesn’t wear boots, they wear High Heeled Pumps.....”
As long as they are regulation style pumps! :)
The first on the ground were CIA contract types who were mostly retired SF. The first in were SF who used pack mules to haul their equipment and they called in strikes for the northern alliance. Next was another SF Team that was with the Karzai.
Yes, but; that does not mean the Pres will realize what the real mission is and what is necessary to destroy the enemy. There is an Operational Order at every level.
My old jungle boots are still in my closet, gathering dust.
Active Duty ping.
Yep, it's all in good fun. I always considered myself a civilized man. For 20 years in the Air Force, I slept in a real bed every night
:-)
When one thinks of “boots on the ground” Air Force does not come to mind. What did he promise about Army and Marines?
You may get a reply or two from that.
Promise? (as if that would mean anything) NADA.
You would be surprised with foward air controllers in the middle of the sh!t.
We are really good at it now.
I never had a single forward air controller on the ground. Yes, I had them overhead to direct fast movers, but; I could talk to Jets on my URC 10.Our FAC’s flew in an O-2 with us, and; after I had a company of Montagnards for about 6 months I flew with the AF FAC daily as we inserted recon teams, called in our support which was only gunship support in Cambodia. We also extracted them with an Air Force helicopter squadron, the 20th SOS. For those who served in RVN you would have been damn fortunate to have had the 20th. Their pilots had flown every kind of plane in the AF to include SR 71’s. They were all instrument rated as opposed to visual only like 90% of Army pilots then. They flew in any weather 24/7 to extract us. Their mini guns were mounted so they could rotate 360.The UH1F’s and P were a bit faster then other typical Hueys. The II Corps Mike Force and the Nha Trang Mike Force credit our 20th SOS for their ability to save Duc Lap in Aug 68.
Yet so many, even here, don’t understand that.
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