Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Fade-Out of the Fade-Out in Popular Music
A Journal of Musical Things ^ | September 16, 2014 | Alan Cross

Posted on 09/16/2014 6:46:53 PM PDT by Squawk 8888

Back in the days before recordings were made on magnetic tape, all songs on record had to have a defined and definite ending. But around 1950, recording engineers using new reel-to-reel recorders realized that could just fade out a song. The concept was simple: play the hook/chorus of the song over and over again as it got softer and softer before disappearing entirely. This technique (a) eliminated the need to write an ending for the song; (b) helped the hook become more memorable for the listener; and (c) supposedly gave the listener that the emotional promises made by the song went on forever. Think “Hey Jude” or “Smoke on the Water.” The effects could be rather dramatic.

Song fade-outs became standard practice for decades in many different genres. Not all subscribed to the same thinking, though. When I first became involved in alternative radio back in the 80s, I distinctly remember thinking it odd how so many songs in the genre actually had endings. They either ended cold (i.e. abruptly on the beat) or with a last chord that naturally faded out. I became a fan.

Today, though, the fade-out seems to be endangered. Slate.com published this chart showing how Top 10 hits came to conclusions over the decade. The trend is obvious.

Interesting, no? I wonder why this is happening? Thoughts?


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: music
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061 next last
To: Squawk 8888

As opposed to the long, tender fadeaway which people like Rachmaninoff and others practiced so well since the late nineteenth century in pieces like the second movement of his Second Piano Concerto......


41 posted on 09/16/2014 8:56:35 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gil4
A friend of mine saw Deep Purple back in the early or mid 80’s, and they were wishing for a fade-out on one song. (I couldn’t tell you which one.) Apparently they got stuck in a loop and none of them could remember how to end the song, so they finally just stopped and apologized for not knowing the ending.

Drugs.

Lots and lots and lots of drugs.

But great music...

42 posted on 09/16/2014 9:07:57 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Political Junkie Too
Since we're talking about the Beatles, I want to share what certainly was one of the strangest movies ever conceived, All This and WW II, a newsreel documentary of WWII tied together with remarkably well done covers of Beatles songs. Unbelievably, it works!
43 posted on 09/16/2014 9:47:19 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Squawk 8888

Global warming


44 posted on 09/17/2014 2:21:37 AM PDT by kidd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Squawk 8888

Bump for later


45 posted on 09/17/2014 2:40:06 AM PDT by Mjaye
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
I can’t believe that stuff is called “music” these days or why it would be “popular”

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you consider music?

46 posted on 09/17/2014 2:47:07 AM PDT by southern rock
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: FredZarguna

True! :-)

Watch the movie..he actually REMIXES Layla right before your ears!


47 posted on 09/17/2014 5:40:32 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

.


48 posted on 09/17/2014 8:08:08 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: southern rock

I don’t think anything by a Mylie, Britney, Gaga, Justin, Katy and most any of the new crap are music.

Most classical is fine.... and...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T40G7L04liQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiwuQ6UHMQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=949mw-0VLoQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbfv-AAyvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLLlXJ6jUzc


49 posted on 09/17/2014 9:08:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: southern rock
I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you consider music?

Something you can hum. If you can't hum it, it ain't music.

50 posted on 09/17/2014 9:38:34 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: PUGACHEV
How about “Day in the Life” from the Sgt. Pepper’s Album? It has both a chord as a definite ending, and a fade out, but is it either?

"A Day in the Life" ends with a perdendosi ("getting lost"), in which the note fades away.

51 posted on 09/17/2014 9:57:18 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Norm Lenhart

Agreed on trance.


52 posted on 09/17/2014 2:09:12 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill

“Perdendosi”, that’s great. Thanks for the new word. Now, if I only knew how to pronounce it, I might be able to use it in sentence one day.


53 posted on 09/17/2014 2:43:20 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill
I like it. Pelosi perdendosi... something that should just fade away and die.

-PJ

54 posted on 09/17/2014 2:55:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill
> “A Day in the Life” ends with a perdendosi (”getting lost”), in which the note fades away.

So that's what they call it. I've heard it called a “tail”. I make my own music for fun and, with the dynamic range afforded by digital always try to allow a good three or four seconds for it to “tail” off to complete silence.

55 posted on 09/17/2014 3:34:27 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Squawk 8888

I see you’re in Canada, what city are you talking about?


56 posted on 09/17/2014 4:00:58 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: stevio

I’m in Toronto, home of the alcoholic mayor who would have been re-elected if he hadn’t been diagnosed with cancer.


57 posted on 09/17/2014 6:03:28 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Squawk 8888

Back in the ‘80s I toured Quebec with a production funk and rock cover band. Never played Montreal, but played Laval, Quebec City, and even Amos. It was a 6 month tour starting in February. Fortunately it wasn’t a bad snow year. The French/Canadian girls are beautiful and I’ll leave it at that.


58 posted on 09/17/2014 6:51:02 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Political Junkie Too

Pelosi è perdersi!


59 posted on 09/17/2014 7:01:51 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
Nothing more annoying than a song that you know is longer on the album being faded out on the single version.

Actually, I listen to the radio when in the car. Those oldies stations that delete portions in the middle of classic songs to fit their time requirements are actually even more annoying.

60 posted on 09/17/2014 7:08:40 PM PDT by untenured
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson