Posted on 09/12/2014 10:41:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
That has been settled in court.
You won’t like the answer.
Is anybody ever fired WITH pay?
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Yes. They call it a severance package.
I only saw those with layoffs, not fired.
Sure its been settled, and the answer depends on the state and the circumstances and the company.
As a small business in Florida I can fire anyone at any time. Can they sue? Sure, but lawyers know small business doesn’t have deep pockets and will want their fees up front.
again missing my point of the original post.
the doctor/boss thought he was being humane. my point which again you miss and don’t comment on, is that it was hardly humane. and as a doctor knowing about stress and what it does to a person, he just heaped a ton additional onto her, and he’s trying to pass off what he did as humane.
HE’s the one SAYING he did it this way b/c it was humane. Like he was doing her a favor.
He’s either an idiot if he really believes this was humane, or a liar and trying to cover his ass for acts he sees most people see as NOT humane at all.
In a small shop as others pointed out, who fires an apparent close working assistant (like working with you daily on procedures, your right hand) with a note? He really thought that was more humane than a one-on-one with her in private, to discuss, hey if i let you go now you can focus on your cancer and you can collect unemployment, and when you are better we can assess where you are and see if you can come back to work?
i just don’t buy the humane rationalization. not from a guy this intelligent.
My heart for this is tired of getting abused. Do the job or get the heck out.
Probably in a bad mood. Let a fairly new employee take today off. Only to find out he also took yesterday (he works in a remote office). He drove 14 hours yesterday but is still claiming he put in 8 hours of work.
Claiming 8 hours for today as well.
Like I said, Im tired.
Doctors typically have really crappy business skills.
I only saw those with layoffs, not fired.
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In corporate America, they are nearly one and the same.
But you’re correct, they don’t call it being fired, it is that your job has been eliminated.
Yes but they seem to by and large still care about people who are patients.
She had been diagnosed with an awful disease and even though not HIS patient, that could not have been taken into consideration?
Ultimately your point may be an explanation/rationalization that even though I can understand, it doesn’t change anything in my post.
white people have taken over the term, so not too popular with the thugs.
Wen white reporters start using something, no longer cool.
I don't agree, and neither does the unemployment office.
IMO it would have been better to have a discussion with her. Thats probably what I would do with a good employee.
As a doctor he probably didn’t really consider the people side. Just my guess.
Or he could be heartless bastard, I have no idea.
I agree. It’s not fair to him to have to pay 2 people to do her job. And he’s a physician himself. He knows what the course of the disease looks like better than a lay person might, and he certainly understands the pharmacology, which he addressed in his letter. I’m also hard-pressed to believe that he wrote it without consulting with an attorney.
If he, however, wrote it without legal advice, then he will be awarded the jackass prize in court.
as a cynic and a “I don’t trust, that’s why i verify” person, i do not believe the whole “my firing note WAS humane” excuse from him. i have a pretty good bs detector.
In my view, hedid it that way to remove the risk of being misunderstood. He needed to cover himself legally, and as harsh as it sounds, it seems to me that he covered her, too.
That doesn’t make him cheap. Quite to the contrary, it’s a prudent business decision.
he could have recorded the one-on-one discussion about this, with her. and then after expressing clearly what his intent was, given her that note explaining the note legally covers her and him for whatever various benefits each get from him writing it, and her receiving it.
this is why i don’t believe his line about being humane.
It was a very bad move from a PR perspective. I don’t contest that for a second. Bragging about his ‘humanity’ will not serve him well.
As a boss I hear a lot of BS. Except with very few people I’ve gotten so I just don’t care. Do the job or go away. People are so quick to claim some BS excuse for why they couldnt get the job done or made mistakes.
It gets really old paying people to do nothing. It usually means I’m working so they don’t have too.
I get you. I was a manager and heard my fair share of lame excuses.
If you read my original post at #30 though, my whole deal here has nothing to do with whether he should let her go or not, or employees trying some bs excuse on the boss. people began answering me with this stuff and it had nothing to do with what I actually commented about.
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