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Woman gets fired without pay after telling her boss she has cancer
NY Daily news ^ | 9/12/14 | BY MICHAEL WALSH

Posted on 09/12/2014 10:41:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

Woman gets fired without pay after telling her boss she has cancer

Carol Jumper, of Hopewell Township, Pa., received a handwritten letter of her termination from her boss, Dr. George Visnich Jr., shortly after she was diagnosed with cancer. Her family and friends are outraged but the doctor's attorney claimed he did a 'humanitarian thing.'

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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Read the notice, it’s sufficiently blunt so that one may understand — this women isn’t going to get UE, this women will get state disability — significantly better than UE. She’ll also qualify for SSSI and eventually SSDI if needed.

Not only is the letter from her employer, it’s from a professional and perhaps considered somewhat expert opinion.

So while it may indeed be a blessing, the doctors attorney shouldn’t be bragging about it. It kinda stands out on it’s own.


21 posted on 09/12/2014 11:11:47 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: thackney

CEOs


22 posted on 09/12/2014 11:13:06 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

No, I don’t believe so. Cancer is not a disability. She was what, an assistant to an oral surgeon? My mom used to do that, it’s a super high stress job that demands focus, repetition, and would be very hard to do on chemo. I would not want to be operated on by an oral surgeon with an assistant that is on chemo, tons of schedule 2 drugs, and not focused on the job.

Guy is in the clear, just trumped up unrealistic outrage over a realistic response. The article doesn’t say what stage her cancer is, or what type. I’m gonna have to go with the boss here, look at that hand writing. Very bad for an oral surgeon.


23 posted on 09/12/2014 11:13:09 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: thackney

As an employer should I be required to keep someone on payroll who can’t do their job?


24 posted on 09/12/2014 11:13:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RC one

Nope. Unemployment Insurance (UI) requires that one be “able and available” to work. That’s why students and the sick can’t get it.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 11:14:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: driftdiver

No. Hell no. But the day is coming where businesses will be forced to hire anyone that comes in and says they want a job. As long as they aren’t white, Christian, or conservative.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 11:14:43 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Small firms can’t carry people while they are unproductive like large firms can.

And it sounds like this is a doctor’s office. If so, the risk of her contracting something at the doctor’s office when she is immuno-compromised would be unacceptable.

The frustrating thing in a case like that is insurance. Now your fired, so you have to pay COBRA rates.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 11:15:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: FreedomStar3028

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/cancer.cfm

As a result of changes made by the ADAAA, people who currently have cancer, or have cancer that is in remission, should easily be found to have a disability within the meaning of the first part of the ADA’s definition of disability because they are substantially limited in the major life activity of normal cell growth or would be so limited if cancer currently in remission was to recur.8

Similarly, individuals with a history of cancer will be covered under the second part of the definition of disability because they will have a record of an impairment that substantially limited a major life activity in the past.9 Finally, an individual is covered under the third (”regarded as”) prong of the definition of disability if an employer takes a prohibited action (for example, refuses to hire or terminates the individual) because of cancer or because the employer believes the individual has cancer.10


28 posted on 09/12/2014 11:16:51 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Hopefully she has health insurance with disability benefits...


29 posted on 09/12/2014 11:20:55 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

ummm, if this was really his humane intention,

why did he not have a one-on-one meeting with her, and lay out exactly what he thought the best way to deal with it was, and maybe explain what he thought the best course of action was?

instead of her receiving a handwritten note saying she’s fired?

the guy is an idiot. getting a cancer diagnosis is incredibly stressful event, especially depending on what kind of cancer it is and what stage you’re considered. LOSING a job is a huge stressful event for anyone, especially when you have no idea it’s coming.

they rank stressful events in terms of how they can damage health. losing a job ranks as one of the top ones, below losing a spouse, child, parent, terrible medical news.

for the doc to knowingly do this is beyond stupid. the argument it’s humane is as humane as if he’d have decided the humane thing was to walk over to her and put a bullet in her head.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 11:22:05 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

no the cheap dr just does not want to pay sick time to his employee


31 posted on 09/12/2014 11:22:53 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: thackney

yes. severance packages. or built into their contracts for things like early termination.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 11:24:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Okay, well the job she was doing is unacceptable for her to be going to while doing chemo. Do you know what oral surgery assistants do? It’s demanding work.


33 posted on 09/12/2014 11:25:55 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That doesn’t sound like “fired”.

I’ve been a department head before. Fired was different with different requirements than laid off.


34 posted on 09/12/2014 11:27:45 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

she certainly seems more qualified for UI than many of the indolent layabouts that have been collecting it for years but she should probably go the social security disability route anyways. Her biggest priority will be insurance benefits.


35 posted on 09/12/2014 11:27:48 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: wmfights

as far as i know nobody is ever classified as cured of cancer. there is no medical test or tests that can label one “cured”.

remission is not cured.

when you are cured of something you don’t have to have periodic checks to see if you’re still cured.

there are no people any of the cancer groups can point to and say they are cured. they are never technically/medically classified as cured. once you have it, you have it.

ask insurers if they ever classify a cancer patient that is in remission that appears to not have it, as cured.


36 posted on 09/12/2014 11:28:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: thackney

I was going to request that!


37 posted on 09/12/2014 11:28:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: FreedomStar3028

I did not say I supported the situation. I merely pointed out it’s not as simple because of the current law.

Yes I have managed medical departments with dentists and assts, been a patient of oral surgery, and managed peace officers who we were required to place in lite duty jobs.

Does that give me street creed in your eyes? And so what.


38 posted on 09/12/2014 11:29:00 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: KirbDog

pretty sure it does actually.


39 posted on 09/12/2014 11:29:08 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: latina4dubya
Interesting analogy. But you can guarantee being an alcoholic or drug addict just by ingesting enough of the junk.

I don't think you can guarantee contacting cancer even by smoking two packs per day.

40 posted on 09/12/2014 11:29:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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