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Gene Simmons Says Rock Isn't Just Dead, ‘It Was Murdered’ by File Sharing
yahoo.com ^ | September 6, 2014 | Greg Gilman

Posted on 09/07/2014 2:09:28 PM PDT by BBell

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To: BBell
Rock has declined because "where are the musicians at"? Who actually plays musical instruments anymore besides the older musicians? I'm not putting down synthesizers because there is a musician and instrument involved. Today's stuff is programed in loops. Joe Walsh talks about it. Walsh uses synthesizers but what he plays is what comes out the speakers.

Next thing as far as the money end of it goes isn't file sharing. If someone likes the music chances are they will buy as good of quality as they can get. The issues usually are the recording/promotion companies and their own personal management who take big chunks off the top. Lot's of groups and musicians ended up broke even with multi top ten records because of this. It doesn't even have to be an artist who lives beyond their means. The industry itself rips them off. That is true whether it's Rock, Country, etc because usually it's still the same companies.

I've likely bought from retail most music I like several times over. Some I can't find due to licensing issues preventing a new release. A lot of good music disappeared in the transition between Vinyl, to Cassette, to CD formats.

I do Rip all music I have to my HD then for places like my vehicle burn copies. That is legal and common sense and should not ever be forbidden.

Where are the artist missing the boat money wise? Where do people go to too watch bands or musicians for free? YouTUBE. You can see a lower quality video and you may really like it. Now go and try and find it retail in a better quality. YOuTube has some video recording that are not in any other format. An example is Grand Funk Railroad singing Locomotion. The best recording of it is on Youtube but it's two bands. Grand Funk and Wet Willie together on stage.

The companies and artist need to step up their game somewhat. KISS? Every band eventually runs it's course as far as sales go. Some stay near the top for decades with albums like Dark Side of The Moon. Some stay around a few month and are one hit wonders. A lot of the 70's groups still play to smaller venues like theme parks, county fairs, etc.. They likely make more money doing that then they did when their records were played non stop. People pay to come to hear the artist.

61 posted on 09/07/2014 4:48:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: BBell

Most modern rock is murder anyways.


62 posted on 09/07/2014 4:50:34 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thanks for turning me on to PMJ. Have you seen the singing clown?

Royals

It is PMJ.

63 posted on 09/07/2014 4:55:22 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was listening to PMJ’s Burn. Cristina Gatti sure does sound like Amy Winehouse in it.


64 posted on 09/07/2014 5:02:17 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Dallas59

Reunion - Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16kh-AP4OCU


65 posted on 09/07/2014 5:11:25 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Steely Tom

I suspect that it was a joke.


66 posted on 09/07/2014 5:13:24 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
I suspect that it was a joke.

I guess it seemed possible enough. You made me check, anyway.

67 posted on 09/07/2014 5:18:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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68 posted on 09/07/2014 5:21:31 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (First let me apologise for being white, and male.)
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To: John 3_19-21
These people ROCK!!!!!
69 posted on 09/07/2014 5:23:46 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (First let me apologise for being white, and male.)
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To: BBell
The music industry can make a star out of anyone (think Disney).

My first thought is "the Monkeys"......

While they were canned junk, rock artists did indeed write and produce their own materials but that seems to have fallen by the wayside......

all that's left now is rap crap, and tit and butt shakin'...........

50 years from now they'll still be playing the songs from the 50's and 60's.........

70 posted on 09/07/2014 5:25:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: BBell

IMHO there is very little real talent left in popular music. The music industry can make a star out of anyone (think Disney).

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In a sense, that’s been true for many decades. The most popular acts always got the best studios, the best producers, songwriters, session musicians if they needed them, and who knows what else.


71 posted on 09/07/2014 5:30:06 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I am of the opinion that if their stuff is good enough to buy, then they don’t have a problem.

The problem is when it’s not. How many of you have bought an LP of some band that you like, and had maybe 1 or 2 tunes that you actually liked on that record with the other 10 or 11 tracks being garbage? I have hundreds of these records and I view file sharing as a sort of restitution for all of the crap that they have sold over the years.

File sharing/pirating is for the most part, stuff that the down-loader wouldn’t have bought anyway, so they re not out anything.


72 posted on 09/07/2014 5:36:50 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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My three sons are in their late teens—early twenties. They listen almost exclusively to Classic Rock. They can’t bring themselves to admit that their generation has almost nothing when it comes to listenable music, but what they listen to speaks for itself.


73 posted on 09/07/2014 5:46:44 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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That's one thing I like about burning my own CD's. I can take the songs off of CD's I bought I like and have the music I want to hear. The alternative is a Classic Rock station than plays about 50 songs over and over and cuts them off at the end or talks over it. Paying for a CD, album etc for about two or three songs hasn't really bothered me that much. No one can turn out hit after hit and on some albums I've found B-side material I liked better than the A-side.

I remember when I bought Herman's Hermits as a kid and Henry The Eighth was A side and End of the world was B side. I liked both. The most Different B-side recording made? The original flip side of "They're coming to take me away". They didn't have any material to record so it was simply recorded backwards.

74 posted on 09/07/2014 5:57:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: BobL

Not only that...they’d put a couple hits in with mostly crap music, so we’d be stuck with mostly crap music. Makes a big diff when we can now be selective of the cuts.


75 posted on 09/07/2014 7:03:05 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thank you! bkmk


76 posted on 09/07/2014 7:12:40 PM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: John 3_19-21
I have never heard of Alabama Shakes. Thank you. They remind me of Hootie and the Blowfish(just kidding).

The band is good.

77 posted on 09/07/2014 7:34:21 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: BobL
Rather than spend 25 cents more for a much higher quality cassette, they went with the absolute worst.

And you couldn't open them up to splice them once the player ate them.

Remember those tangled balls of tape along the roadsides? Sort of like high-tech tumbleweeds.

Those cheapskates did the same thing with pre-recorded VHS tapes.

78 posted on 09/07/2014 8:03:40 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SgtHooper

“Not only that...they’d put a couple hits in with mostly crap music, so we’d be stuck with mostly crap music. Makes a big diff when we can now be selective of the cuts.”

Oh yea, forgot that...paid for a LOT MORE songs than I ever cared to listen to.


79 posted on 09/07/2014 8:10:34 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: Fresh Wind

“And you couldn’t open them up to splice them once the player ate them. Remember those tangled balls of tape along the roadsides? Sort of like high-tech tumbleweeds. Those cheapskates did the same thing with pre-recorded VHS tapes.”

Oh yea, and we didn’t have a choice...we couldn’t buy their product on the higher quality tapes, the ones with the small screws...nope, it was crappy tapes or nothing. I will not be sad to see the labels go the way of the dinosaurs.


80 posted on 09/07/2014 8:12:44 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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