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Are Conservatives too Emo?
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Posted on 09/07/2014 10:15:56 AM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce

Politics is one of the tools (not the only one) by which people, individually or in groups, attempt to get the most of what they value. A gets B because A wants it and has the power to obtain it. Everything else is detail. Will plus power. “Because he can.” It has NEVER been “because he should.” (short of divine intervention).

Candidate A gets elected because he wants to be, and because he can

Homosexuals get same-sex marriage because they want it, and because they can

Politicians get legislation passed because they want to, and because they can

Professors bully their students into silence because they want to, and because they can

Police intimidate citizens because they want to, and because they can

The Supreme Court overrules the vote of the people because they want to, and because they can

There is a reasonableness in this. Nature favors those willing to expend time, energy and resources obtaining what they want. This encourages the virtues of planning, industriousness, loyalty, commitment, ingenuity, foresightedness, etc. If the opposition is not willing to make the same sacrifice, is it a mystery that they are unsuccessful? Anyone uncertain about what they want, or unwilling to muster the forces necessary, is not likely to be successful, even if the cause is right. They lack the means but, more importantly, they lack the WILL. The opposition does not win because their cause is right, but because they are not opposed by a sufficient will.

These are timeless principals, thoroughly covered in the classics, studied for centuries, understood instinctively. So why are so many people surprised when they lose their battles? Instead of asking “how did we underestimate our enemy” or “how were we unprepared” there is wailing against the “liberal establishment” or the “Godless and corrupt world.”

Does anyone else perceive this as unproductive? And emotional?


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1 posted on 09/07/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

*yawn*

pass


2 posted on 09/07/2014 10:20:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

DUH!....................


3 posted on 09/07/2014 10:21:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

Portrait of a conservative couple.

Yeppers. Way too emo!
4 posted on 09/07/2014 10:21:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce
I never considered your bullets, as you put them .. before.

I like the premise.

5 posted on 09/07/2014 10:22:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

Do you know an emo is?


6 posted on 09/07/2014 10:22:25 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: PinkChampagneonIce
What I "want" is for there to be an end of busy-bodies forcing me to do things. And the only way I can really obtain that is by forcing myself into the lives of others, laying down some rules, and forcing them to stop being busy-bodies.

Conservatism is hard because it contains within itself something of a contradiction. Perhaps not as impossible as proving a negative, but working within the political system to achieve a system of limited government, is certainly no simple task.

7 posted on 09/07/2014 10:23:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

What does that even mean?


8 posted on 09/07/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

If conservatives are guilty of anything, its missing the small but important battles.

We don’t win when we skip votes on lesser races like board of education, democrats don’t even have to try when we hand those races to them without a fight. Homeschooling or private schooling is great but its no excuse to retreat from the fight.

The same can be said for the culture war. Retreating is not winning, retreating is willfully losing. Its not hard to support good art, movies, TV, or music. When we support what is good, producers and studios notice.


10 posted on 09/07/2014 10:28:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

"Emo"? No. Frustrated, yes.

11 posted on 09/07/2014 10:28:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

What is “Emo?”


12 posted on 09/07/2014 10:28:55 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: F15Eagle

Is that the poster?


13 posted on 09/07/2014 10:30:05 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

Liberals are the emotional ones. They don’t think, they ‘feeeeeeeeel’.

My dad was a college professor. WWII vet, as were many of his colleagues.

Late ‘70s, early ‘80s is when I saw things change in the academic world. I didn’t want to be part of it.


14 posted on 09/07/2014 10:30:18 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Youtube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce
Too “Emo”? You mean like Tea Party rally venues being left in pristine condition after hosting thousands while the City of New York had to spend millions cleaning up after Occupy Wall Street? And that's not to mention the heroin ODs and rapes that occurred at OWS.
15 posted on 09/07/2014 10:30:26 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce
Some conservatives don't get emotional about it at all, we simply seek to politically destroy liberal republicans and ensure they never win another race, in the primary or the general election.

It's possible to get rid of all the liberals from one of the major parties. (hint: you can't get rid of the liberals from the dem party)

/johnny

16 posted on 09/07/2014 10:32:36 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. I’m pretty frustrated with people who talk much, and appear to do little.

NO — that’s not a picture of the poster. LOL.

And I used the word “emo” in it’s original sense of “emotional”


17 posted on 09/07/2014 10:33:35 AM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: JRandomFreeper

I think if everyone did that, there would be a HUGE change in our political climate. But the thing I find frustrating is that they don’t, and then wonder why things don’t change. This has been bothering me a lot, hence the post.


18 posted on 09/07/2014 10:36:01 AM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: PinkChampagneonIce
It takes time, and can be frustrating. I started the Boot Dewhurst pinglist here on FR a full 2 years before he got sent his walking papers.

One more liberal republican gone.

And one with national aspirations.

It's a lot of work, knocking on doors, burning shoe leather, making calls. And you also get attacked by republicans because you won't vote for, and work against their liberal candidates.

/johnny

19 posted on 09/07/2014 10:38:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

what the hell is emo?


20 posted on 09/07/2014 10:46:06 AM PDT by dalereed
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