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Representing employer
4 Sept 2014 | Rey

Posted on 09/04/2014 8:31:16 PM PDT by rey

I am a caretaker/property manager for a rural estate. The owners are out of the country and have asked me to represent them at an appeal hearing concerning the development of a nearby property. They oppose this development. I am a free market property rights person and feel you should be able to do as you wish with your property. I feel this is a political, not a business issue. I feel it is wrong to have community meetings to decide what you may do with what is supposed to be yours. I also feel that these political decisions have already been made and that going to these hearings is a waste of time.

Am I under obligation to go and represent them and support something I do not support?


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1 posted on 09/04/2014 8:31:16 PM PDT by rey
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Why do they oppose the development?


2 posted on 09/04/2014 8:33:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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Go and listen. Put up a good front. Make the developer earn it.


3 posted on 09/04/2014 8:34:00 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: rey
Am I under obligation to go and represent them

DUH. Look up fiduciary.

4 posted on 09/04/2014 8:34:04 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Some lawyers give a first consultation free.

Otherwise, you need to pay them, since advice is what they sell.

Oh... the second best lawyer is the most expensive thing in the world.

/johnny

5 posted on 09/04/2014 8:35:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Do you like your job?


6 posted on 09/04/2014 8:35:34 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: rey

Yes you are... What part of representing them do you not understand?


7 posted on 09/04/2014 8:45:59 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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Well, you don’t have to say YOU oppose it. You can say that you represent the owners of the property at 123 MyStreet and that they oppose the development for such-and-such reasons. I think as their employee you do have the obligation to present their views since they’re not able to do it themselves.


8 posted on 09/04/2014 8:46:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Just go, advise the board (of zoning appeals? Plan commission?) that you represent owners ____________, address, __________, that they oppose the requested re-zoning, variance, special use permit, home occupation (whatever), and you would be happy to forward on to the owners—your principals—whatever questions or concerns the board might have for them.
Your opinion is irrelevant. Take good notes and forward them on to the people who write you checks.


9 posted on 09/04/2014 8:47:59 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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If it was a mosque would you so pious?

They are looking for you to represent their interests....not your own...

I don’t see conflict really.


10 posted on 09/04/2014 8:48:34 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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You have a fiduciary duty to your employer to represent their position. If you can’t do that then tell them and offer your resignation.


11 posted on 09/04/2014 8:50:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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On a strictly political basis, sometimes Conservative voters elect a guy to congress -- and he goes to Washington and votes in a Liberal fashion: because that's how he feels. Well, I say the politician wasn't sent to Washington to vote his own position so much as the voters' position. The RINOs are the ones who don't uphold their end of the bargain.

You are the caretaker. You represent the owner. Who cares what you think. Your job is to represent them.

12 posted on 09/04/2014 8:51:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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You need to ask your employers what they want you to do, specifically. If you cannot do what they want, then resign your job. If you feel unqualified to do what they want, but are willing to find someone who can do what they want, then get your employers to authorize you to employ an attorney to advise you.


13 posted on 09/04/2014 8:56:36 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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As a postscript, on the other hand, call the office first to see if you have standing. Ordinarily you have to be licensed to practice law. If they say you’re good to go, have your employers e-mail an attachment with the reasons they have for opposing the development. If nothing else, you should be able to submit that.
But put yourself in their places: what would you expect your property manager to do if you were owner? Nothing, because it offends his sensibilities? Come down off your high horse.


14 posted on 09/04/2014 9:01:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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They’re your employer for heaven’s sake! Do you want to keep your job?


15 posted on 09/04/2014 9:11:58 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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“I am a caretaker/property manager for a rural estate. “

I would say two things.

Your job as described by your post is to manage their property. It is not to represent their personal interests. They should hire a lawyer or lobbyist to do that job. Your post says they asked you take on this added role. You should have pointed out that this is outside the scope of your duties and that you disagree with their position.

I manage a property for out of state clients. I would have no qualms with speaking out to a position that is opposite of their desires. (This is not likely to ever happen in my case.)

Second point, I am very active in my city and an advocate of building more housing. I have a mantra I repeat to the city council on a regular basis that we should be building all types of housing for all types of people in all parts of the city. I usually use this line when opposing NYMBYS who are trying to stop a project. This happens on a regular basis in my small city and our city council has far too much influence and power in the development that happens in the city.

Just last night they illogically killed a project that would reduce the size and scope of a project that the council originally approved back in 2004. They killed it because the beautiful people who live nearby came out in force to oppose it. The project failed by one vote including that of a councilor who voted for it 10 years ago.


16 posted on 09/04/2014 9:12:30 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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Get a lawyer; don’t conduct a popularity contest!


17 posted on 09/04/2014 9:17:31 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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Sure, because it’s your job. But it’s up to you to determine whether you do a really good job or just go thru the motions. If the outcome is a foregone conclusion, what’s the big deal?


18 posted on 09/04/2014 9:30:54 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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........my trial lawyer and I don’t agree on ANYTHING politically. He is a liberal’s liberal! Strangely he enjoys hunting which I did many years ago but not anymore. That’s about as close to agreeing on issues of the day as we get.

But, in 20 years of fighting the liberal establishment regarding real estate development deals in Austin for me he always shows up. In a courtroom, and in about a half dozen civil jury trials, we’ve never lost.

So, my point? Think of yourself as your employer’s attorney and go over there and argue HIS case! You PERSONALLY can hold any view you want.


19 posted on 09/04/2014 9:34:55 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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your boss should provid you with a written statement that you can read at the meeting. This is a common at public hearings.

The public officials should base their decision on the land use laws of your area and the zoning of the property not public opinion


20 posted on 09/04/2014 9:52:54 PM PDT by jcon40
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