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Fatal Dose? Investigators Uncover How Dangerous Drug Propofol May Have Sent Joan Rivers Into A Coma
Radar Online ^ | 9/3/2014 | Radar Online

Posted on 09/04/2014 3:06:17 PM PDT by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59; Black Agnes; CatherineofAragon; Travis McGee

They use this to sedate anyone for mild surgery

...my pacemaker last spring...

Its dangerous if poorly administered or probably for someone 80 something

In hindsight such procedures at her age best done near a good cardiac unit

Given the real estate there its no wonder outpatient stuff is just that

Lenox Hill is decent joint

I got sewed up there once after a race based brawl in 82...


21 posted on 09/04/2014 3:38:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: Dallas59

I am sure after her recent comments on Israel there are many scumbags in Hollywood that are happy.

RIP Mrs Rivers.


22 posted on 09/04/2014 3:39:19 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna
All day-surgery centers in Sacramento CA are equipped and ready to deal with emergencies like this. It's SOP.

Still if I were 81, I would rather the day surgery be performed in a a day surgery center located in a larger hospital.

23 posted on 09/04/2014 3:40:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: hoosierham

Possible theories of the situation:

1. Natural Causes/age
2. Breitbarted with a CIA pin, which will leave no evidence
3. Anti-Israel saboteur
4. Medical error

Any of these are, to my mind, equally possible.


24 posted on 09/04/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Dallas59

Couldn’t they do a field trach? Cut open her throat and insert a straw?


25 posted on 09/04/2014 4:03:01 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: grania

I have been given this drug for procedures 4 different times with no problems.

Well, I started singing one time. But that was only a problem for the people that had to hear me.


26 posted on 09/04/2014 4:19:20 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Brother Cracker

Is she dead? This piece says she is in dire condition.


27 posted on 09/04/2014 4:20:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have been wondering all along who the anesthesiologist is, and if the anesthesiologist may have had “issues” with her politics/ethnicity, if you know what I mean.


28 posted on 09/04/2014 4:30:28 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Bigg Red

Breaking News: Joan Rivers Passes Away at 81


29 posted on 09/04/2014 4:37:38 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: nickcarraway

When I had a stress EKG the technician had me sign a waiver. He said that 1 in 10,000 patients die during the test. Then he added, “But don’t worry, I already lost someone doing this, so you should be safe.”


30 posted on 09/04/2014 4:40:49 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Dallas59

Was the procedure a COSMETIC one??


31 posted on 09/04/2014 4:40:52 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dallas59

This shouldn’t have happened. RIP, Joan.


32 posted on 09/04/2014 4:41:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ann Archy

No, I don’t think so.


33 posted on 09/04/2014 4:42:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

What was it then??


34 posted on 09/04/2014 4:44:26 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
"On September 4, 2014, Rivers died following serious complications—including cardiac arrest—during a procedure on her vocal cords at a clinic on the Upper East Side of Manhattan."

Source: Wikipedia

35 posted on 09/04/2014 4:47:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I KNOW.... but WHAT was the issue??? AND WHY in a CLINIC and not a HOSPITAL???? That’s why I THINK the “Vocal Chords” thing may be a LIE.


36 posted on 09/04/2014 4:49:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I don’t know anything about that. I do think that this may possibly be either outright incompetence or murder.


37 posted on 09/04/2014 4:51:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Why was an 81-year old woman having general anesthesia in an out patient clinic rather than a hospital. In a hospital, they have real anesthesiologists administering anesthesia.”

We don’t know if an anesthesiologist was involved, or not.

I have had two surgeries in a same day “surgery center,” with anesthesiologist, general, etc. (Not referred to as “outpatient.”)

I had a 3rd surgery in a similar facility, local drug, without anesthesiologist.


38 posted on 09/04/2014 5:00:28 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Ann Archy
Was the procedure a COSMETIC one??

Not sure what difference it makes, but no, endoscopy is typically not a "COSMETIC" procedure (unless you're prone to having people jump down your throat a lot and want to keep your esophagus nice and tidy).

39 posted on 09/04/2014 5:27:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Dallas59
ALL drugs are inherently dangerous.

Propofol becomes dangerous if the people administering it are stupid and sloppy. Its half-life is short, and when titrated on a mcg/kg/minute increment, it is very easy to "fine tune" the dose so as to maintain a level of comfort without depressing either blood pressure or respiratory drive.

On that note, best practice demands that a respiratory therapist be present to provide oxygen and assist with ventilation (using a bag valve mask) until the dose wears off. A bolus dose is also weight-based.

My educated guess is that too large a dose was given, that vital signs were poorly (or not) monitored, and that no respiratory therapist was present to monitor and assist with breathing.

40 posted on 09/04/2014 5:29:35 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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