Posted on 08/23/2014 11:08:25 AM PDT by OL Hickory
By this point, you have made up your own mind, as so many of us have. You are from one of two camps. One is the "hasn't Pete suffered enough? The other is the "Pete got exactly what he deserved"
I occupy the former.
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The clown needlessly injured a Cleveland player during an all-star game -- had he bet on that game? Is that why he felt the need for a hard slide during a mid-season exhibition game?
Heck, no. The guy deserves nothing.
And what if he ordered his pitcher to plunk the star player on the opposing team, because he had money riding on his team to win?
“Betting on your team to win means you’re probably going to overuse your pitching staff to win games.”
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Agreed.
Plus, Rose owed his bookies over $200k. Bookies don’t like that. When you owe them, they force you to make decisions so they can make their money back. Decisions which run contrary to the integrity and the best interests of baseball.
“What he did with the betting was bad but done after his playing career.”
Well, functionally true but he was the team manager at the time.
What crap. We have a President Clinton who lied under oath and had to pay a hefty 750K fine, lost his law license, and is said to have raped Juanita Broderick.
Our present POTUS lied to us straight to our face, and his whole past is sealed from scrutiny.
You have priests and other clergy who molested kids, stole money, and have been racist hustlers.
Guys like Stienbrenner had legal problems with running the companies that made them rich enough to buy into baseball franchises.
Then there are the players who on virtually every team took drugs of one type or another.
Judge lest not ye be judged
Pete was a ball player, let God judge him as a man!!!!
Pete has been out of baseball longer than some present players have been alive.
In all honesty, some people get a shorter sentence for murder. Let bygones be bygones, enough is enough.
Pete go and be inducted the couch potatoes are just jealous that all they can do is drink beer.
Darn right Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of
Fame as does Gil Hodges.
Career G GS GF W L PCT ERA CG SHO SV IP BFP H ER R HR BB IBB SO WP HBP BK HLD
Pete Rose
Pete Rose Hitting Stats
Yr Age Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR GRSL RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
1963 22 Reds 157 623 101 170 25 9 6 0 41 55 0 72 6 6 5 8 .273 .334 .371
1964 23 Reds 136 516 64 139 13 2 4 1 34 36 0 51 3 1 2 6 .269 .319 .326
1965 24 Reds 162 670 117 209 35 11 11 0 81 69 2 76 8 2 8 10 .312 .382 .446
1966 25 Reds 156 654 97 205 38 5 16 0 70 37 3 61 7 1 1 12 .313 .351 .460
1967 26 Reds 148 585 86 176 32 8 12 0 76 56 9 66 1 2 3 9 .301 .364 .444
1968 27 Reds 149 626 94 210 42 6 10 0 49 56 15 76 2 4 4 11 .335 .391 .470
1969 28 Reds 156 627 120 218 33 11 16 0 82 88 18 65 2 6 5 13 .348 .428 .512
1970 29 Reds 159 649 120 205 37 9 15 0 52 73 10 64 0 4 2 7 .316 .385 .470
1971 30 Reds 160 632 86 192 27 4 13 0 44 68 15 50 1 3 3 9 .304 .373 .421
1972 31 Reds 154 645 107 198 31 11 6 0 57 73 4 46 2 2 7 7 .307 .382 .417
1973 32 Reds 160 680 115 230 36 8 5 0 64 65 6 42 1 0 6 14 .338 .401 .437
1974 33 Reds 163 652 110 185 45 7 3 0 51 106 14 54 1 6 5 9 .284 .385 .388
1975 34 Reds 162 662 112 210 47 4 7 0 74 89 8 50 1 1 11 13 .317 .406 .432
1976 35 Reds 162 665 130 215 42 6 10 0 63 86 7 54 0 2 6 17 .323 .404 .450
1977 36 Reds 162 655 95 204 38 7 9 0 64 66 7 42 1 4 5 9 .311 .377 .432
1978 37 Reds 159 655 103 198 51 3 7 0 52 62 6 30 2 7 3 8 .302 .362 .421
1979 38 Phillies 163 628 90 208 40 5 4 0 59 95 10 32 0 5 2 18 .331 .418 .430
1980 39 Phillies 162 655 95 185 42 1 1 0 64 66 5 33 4 4 6 13 .282 .352 .354
1981 40 Phillies 107 431 73 140 18 5 0 0 33 46 5 26 1 3 3 8 .325 .391 .390
1982 41 Phillies 162 634 80 172 25 4 3 0 54 66 9 32 8 3 7 12 .271 .345 .338
1983 42 Phillies 151 493 52 121 14 3 0 0 45 52 5 28 1 7 2 11 .245 .316 .286
1984 43 Expos 95 278 34 72 6 2 0 0 23 31 3 20 3 1 1 10 .259 .334 .295
1984 43 Reds 26 96 9 35 9 0 0 0 11 9 1 7 0 0 2 1 .365 .430 .458
1985 44 Reds 119 405 60 107 12 2 2 0 46 86 5 35 1 4 4 10 .264 .395 .319
1986 45 Reds 72 237 15 52 8 2 0 0 25 30 0 31 0 1 4 2 .219 .316 .270
Career G AB R H 2B 3B HR GRSL RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
24 Years 3,562 14,053 2,165 4,256 746 135 160 1 1,314 1,566 167 1,143 56 79 107 247 .303 .375 .409
Is George Herman Ruth in the Baseball Hall of Fame?
“Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.”
Many of the greatest players in the “Hall” were severely lacking in integrity, sportsmanshiop character etc.
I say nay!
let him in, just make sure that the betting thing is included
he WAS a good player.
None...
Regardless, I’d still induct him AD.
For the record:
Pete gambled on baseball games after he had retired as an active player. He was managing at the time...Rose never bet against his own team...
Pete Rose defined an era of baseball. Without him in the HoF, the Hall has a void from that era.
Pete has paid the price for gambling on baseball. It is time to include one of the greatest players of all time in the HoF.
Miserable excuse for a human being?
What are we doing canonizing saints?
He accepted the lifetime ban. Let him serve it first, and then we can talk HOF.
Ever since Pete Rose was banned from baseball for life, I have been unable to sleep, eat properly and untold stress has been put upon me. It is not for Pete Rose’s sake that I wish for him to be put into the HOF, but for mine.
I predict that that he WILL be admitted - within one year after his demise.
I have mixed feelings on this; you certainly must agree, that the ONLY thing that makes professional sports attractive is it’s honesty and fairness (OK, well, at least the perception thereof), and the league simply has to keep out even the faintest whiff of anything otherwise.
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