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Interesting phone call I just received
August 23, 2014 | Me

Posted on 08/23/2014 7:32:59 AM PDT by The Working Man

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To: The Working Man
That was Rachel from Credit Card Services.
81 posted on 08/23/2014 10:09:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: The Working Man
Final Defendants in ‘Rachel from Cardholder Services’ Scheme Settle FTC Charges
82 posted on 08/23/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: The Working Man

Understand that there is a difference between “caller announce” which is what shows up on the caller ID and “caller record” which stores the source and destination of the call.

In the situation you describe, the call record would show the phone number of the call originator, not what they advertise as their number. The legal defense would be to subpoena the call records of you phone. It is also unlikely that the police would charge you as they would / should do the same.


83 posted on 08/23/2014 10:13:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: melissa_in_ga

The better thing to do is call him a liar and don’t hang up. It will cost them money, pisses “Peter” off (mine started cussing and threatening). It was really quite funny to listen to. To bad I did not have a recorder for the call otherwise I could have filed criminal charges.


84 posted on 08/23/2014 10:16:54 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: The Working Man
Just got a call an hour ago for an offer for lower CC rates. Caller ID indicated it was a local business (magic spa). Called that # back and the business had no idea what was goig on. Evidently now companies doing cold promotional calls have figured out a way to trick the caller ID.

Have been getting a spam call about once a day inthelast few months? Whatever happened to the do not call list? Most of the unsolicited calls we get are for offers for a lower CC rates or for medical allert systems.

85 posted on 08/23/2014 10:17:50 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Liz

“Contact the FCC web site”

My wife got the same call yesterday. It had my name on the caller ID. She hung up after she figured out it was a telemarketer Sadly, with modern equipment, anyone with a few dollars can spoof caller ID’s with any name or number they wish.I used to report these types of criminals to the FCC, but I don’t believe anything ever happened.One kept calling me for over a year after I reported them. I even called my state attorney generals office and filed a complaint. The lady there was very nice and sounded interested. She asked questions and took my information, but the calls continued several times a week for months afterwards. I had spent hours doing research on these scum and even gave them the name of the company and individual responsible. They were in Arizona, not Kentucky. The truth is the government doesn’t care much about these small operations. The people are hard to catch, change locations and tactic often and don’t yield any money for the government after they are caught. Now, if you have a good case against AT&T or Sprint, the FCC would love to hear from you. They are easy to find and have tons of money to harvest as fines or settlements.


86 posted on 08/23/2014 10:23:12 AM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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To: goodnesswins
The beauty of caller ID is I NEVER answer my cell phone unless I KNOW the caller.

Bingo!!!! Unfamiliar numbers are looked up on 800notes.com or a similar site and if they show up there, I block them immediately. Problem solved.

87 posted on 08/23/2014 10:30:43 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: ChronicMA

Thanks for the information. It is probable that someone has accessed my contact list as it was my wife’s phone number that appeared on my phone as the caller. The only problem being when I spoke there was nobody at the other end of the phone, though it sounded like there was someone there. I’ll contact my daughter as she is on my contact list. I’m interested in whether or not she has been contacted.


88 posted on 08/23/2014 10:38:47 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: The Working Man

Various scams use websites like Monster.com to get your phone number. They then call and leave a message. “We’d like you to come in and interview. Call this number; xxx-xxx-xxxx.” But the number they called you from (not the one they give you to call) is “not in service.” The police must be aware it’s apparently easy to adjust your service to spoof anything. When I used to get calls from the local Homicide detectives (don’t ask) it always came up on the display with something like “number withheld.” So, apparently you can tell some systems to say anything on the receiving phone.


89 posted on 08/23/2014 11:09:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: The Working Man

We just got one of those. Not our number but they’ve stolen some “Arthur’s” number and have been using it for a month. Hubby decided to return “Arthur’s” call yesterday and the guy swore he never called so who knows. “Arthur’s” number called a little while ago and hubby answered with, “Hi, Arthur!” but a black woman was on the other end. He let her do her thing and acted interested. Strange how quickly she hung up when he said he didn’t have a credit card but asked if she could send him some.


90 posted on 08/23/2014 11:12:30 AM PDT by bgill
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To: njmaugbill
I got a call for a auto warranty expired the other day. The woman on the phone said they have been mailing me notices and they haven't received any replies in the mail. I told her that's because I throw them all away.
91 posted on 08/23/2014 11:15:39 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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I get calls all the time from the supposed credit card, the MS computer guys, and now, medical ones. Sometimes I will play with them, takes their time from someone else. Most times I say I do not have credit cards (then they want me to get one), I have a Mac (then, they say they can fix that too) or I do not have a computer and no, I have had no surgeries.

I may start telling them I need to get my husband/daughter/son/grandkid, whatever just to waste some more of their time. They change the numbers so much that blocking is not a real option.


92 posted on 08/23/2014 11:18:36 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: The Working Man

Blah, just got another call and it was using a different local number.


93 posted on 08/23/2014 11:20:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: The Working Man
These scammers are driving me crazy with calls about “my credit card debt” and other stuff. I don't have any CC debt you moron.

Do you suppose anyone ever falls for their crooked deal?

94 posted on 08/23/2014 11:22:12 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Safetgiver

It isn’t a good idea to tell strangers you’ll be away from home. That’s an invitation for a break-in.


95 posted on 08/23/2014 11:35:10 AM PDT by bgill
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To: The Working Man
First (and often only) question I ask them is "Really? What card?"

Usually they hang up.

I smell a scam. If I get a call from one of my credit card companies they usually identify themselves right away.

I will not disclose anything on an incoming call, but request a callback person and/or number.

96 posted on 08/23/2014 11:39:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: easternsky

‘Jesus Christ?” Wow. . . .I would have put him on hold while I did a few last second atonement’s and prayers before picking up . . .

;-)


97 posted on 08/23/2014 11:45:22 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: The Working Man
Perhaps someone as already mentioned this on this lengthy thread, but I've read about a free service called NoMoRobo that stops robo-calls when the system detects an incoming computer-generated call. I've heard good things about it but my landline phone carrier, Wave, is not on the service list ... but many phone companies are. I think it's worth checking out at nomorobo.com

In the meanwhile, after about the fifth call of the day if I can get through to a "live" person I just explain politely that I try to avoid doing business with homosexuals. If they're dumb enough to object and say they are not, I apologize and say it was an honest mistake on my part, but they should really do something about that lisp which gives people the wrong impression. I hang up without waiting for a response -- unless they get angry which is when the fun really begins ...

98 posted on 08/23/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: The Working Man

When I get those calls and press 1 to leave a message...I have the local FBI Special Agent’s name and phone number written on a post-it note.


99 posted on 08/23/2014 11:58:55 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The Working Man

had the same thing happen recently

did some internet searchs on the topic

and called Verizon about it

it is most often done two ways, both making it harder to find just who the original caller is

it is not very hard told, I was told, when using VOIP - like with Skype of Magic Jack, to alter the “phone number” that you are calling from to appear to be something else, and since the call does not originate in the telco’s “telephone number” system (they can’t check it), the “phone number” being passed via VOIP is just passed without question

then, in the “last mile” when attempting to provide your “caller id” services, the teleco’s database is queried for the name to pass with the phone number

it is apparently also possible to do something similar with certain prepaid phone cards

I turned my incident over to Verizon’s fraud department, for in spite of the fact that it is no longer technically difficult to do it, it is illegal. Verizon said if it was a VOIP originated call, they’d most likely not be successful tracing it.


100 posted on 08/23/2014 12:16:55 PM PDT by Wuli
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