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1 posted on 08/19/2014 11:37:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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What part of “curfew” and “disperse” is not understood?


2 posted on 08/19/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Rusty0604

“this is a thoughful police officer...” Nope. Just a pig.


3 posted on 08/19/2014 11:42:44 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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Heh heh.

In other words, mo matter how big a JBT, thug with a badge, donut munching dog shooting SOB he is...

Do what he says! Do what he says!


4 posted on 08/19/2014 11:43:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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What was initially an ever so slow inching along closer to the police state keeps picking up speed and is now lazily galloping along....


6 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:14 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it is important to know what you believeÂ….and more importantly, why you believe it.)
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7 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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8 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:40 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Rusty0604; null and void; bamahead

“Do what I tell you” Ping


9 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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the Library of Congress has its own SWAT team as do 53 different federal agencies.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:20 AM PDT by gaijin
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Too many cops are willing to beat you, taze you, throw you to the ground and even shoot you if you don’t appear to be groveling sufficiently.


12 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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I think you should do the opposite of what you are told by this guy.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 11:47:15 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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“you don’t have to submit to an illegal stop or search. You can refuse consent to search your car or home if there’s no warrant.”

These two sentences include so many footnotes and conditions that they are meaningless. Especially about “warrantless searches”, “no knock searches”, “exigency searches”, “anonymous informant” and “secret government surveillance” searches, “dog authorized searches”, and “illegal search but still admissible in court” searches.


15 posted on 08/19/2014 11:48:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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"Just do what I tell you" is the other extreme position. No ... we will not "just do" what you tell us unless you are operating within the constraints of the law yourself. We have rights; you work for us.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 11:58:48 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Just how do you "refuse consent to search your car or home" without running afoul of the no-nos Dutta warns may get you "shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground"?

You say "I do not consent to a search". Why does that require you to insult or threaten the cop?

21 posted on 08/19/2014 12:05:13 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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I’ve been involved in one police stop in my life.My sister was driving (her car) and her teenage son (a big kid) and I were her passengers.It was Virginia,I-95,broad daylight.I remember reminding my nephew several times as we were slowing down and pulling over...”stay still,stay calm,say nothing unless the cop specifically addresses you,keep your hands in sight at all times”.The stop was fine...state trooper,black,very polite and business-like (as was my sister)...we were on our way in less than 10 minutes.And she was couple of hundred dollars poorer.


22 posted on 08/19/2014 12:05:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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"Do what I say, BECAUSE!"
25 posted on 08/19/2014 12:09:35 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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So, why isn’t this reasonable advice?

1. Record the interaction. If you aren’t ready to record in your car, that’s your fault.

2. Refuse to consent to unconstitutional searches. Men have fought and died for your rights, don’t consent to give them away. Do it respectfully. You’d be surprised how many of the police RESPECT those who know and exercise their rights.

3. If the officer asks you under threat of physical harm to comply with an order that you believe is illegal, state your protest and COMPLY. You have it recorded. If you don’t get your day in court, you’ll probably get a week on Youtube.

4. Have a lawyer. I can “Okay Google” call with my hands tied up wherever.

If you are talking about a SWAT raid on the wrong house, I’d be in big trouble. Somebody strange busts into my house, it won’t end well for anybody. That said, that’s a pretty unlikely scenario.

I think this guy is talking about day to day interactions. Sure, he should be talking about how POLICE should respect those they are supposed to protect and serve, but I got it. We’re like the taxpayer vs. the IRS now. They don’t want to protect or serve. I’ll continue to vote them out, but I won’t poke them in the eye and expect a hug in return either.


26 posted on 08/19/2014 12:09:40 PM PDT by cizinec ( For the Republic!)
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"If you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground," warns Officer Sunil Dutta of the Los Angeles Police Department, "just do what I tell you."

Let's make that rule work both ways. Go perform a physically impossible feat on yourself, or I'll shoot, tase, pepperspray, or beat you to the ground.

28 posted on 08/19/2014 12:11:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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Don't argue with me, don't call me names, don't tell me that I can't stop you, don't say I'm a racist pig, don't threaten that you'll sue me and take away my badge. Don't scream at me that you pay my salary, and don't even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

Yeah, but if he asks you for ID, just tell him, "It's at yo momma's house." You'll get invited to the White House.

29 posted on 08/19/2014 12:11:30 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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I have been stopped before.

I have found that if you decide to bow up and show the officer what an accomplished sea lawyer you are and how important you are, the officer may choose to show you how impressed with your credentials he really is.

Never upset someone who is in a position of authority. They have the ability to make your life miserable.
If there is a problem, maintain your cool and when it is over, get an attorney.

One thing I have found over my nearly 70 years is that the more guilty a person is, the more they show their backside.

It is better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.


38 posted on 08/19/2014 12:29:51 PM PDT by GOJPN
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This isn’t the way it was not that long ago. This is what happened to police after swat hit every unit in the country.
I hope they know enough to keep Sunil off details like the county fair or high school football games. He is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
What an attitude. If I was his boss and read this I would pull his badge, get him a chill pill and some counseling


39 posted on 08/19/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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