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To: idov; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Only in Israel and India does Jesus go by a Hindi name, Yeshu, which in Egypt was applied to Krishna.

Oh. That's a new one on me. But maybe, as this writer, dealing with the claim that "Iesous" or "Jesus" is a pagan corruption, states, you can "simply take "Yahshua" and extricate "Ahshu" from it and now we have a name which is derived directly from that of the Hindu goddess Shiva and Ya is the heathen god of Ebla. And that cloud passing overhead looks like a poodle, therefore it is a poodle."

Are you saying His original name was Yeshu versus 'Yehoshua/"Yeshua'" or that these come from Yeshu from India? And that Yehoshua was not a common name in the time of the Second Temple?

And this is something you have objectively researched and thus hold that this means Yehoshua/"Yeshua did not exist, but that the story of Christ "came from straight from Egyptian mythology" as your author (unless you are him) contends? (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/survey-says-jews-killed-jesus-the-guy-was-a-myth/)

And you are not looking for an argument on religion??? -

8 posted on 08/19/2014 7:24:11 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

I am not looking for an argument. The Indians were coming in to Egypt for centuries. A cult developed around Yeshu, a name for Krishna. His number two was Pet.Ra, same kind of name as Potiphe.Ra, related to the sun god Ra, and he was the gatekeeper of the Egyptian heaven. He got the same position in the new cult. The mother’s name was either Maya, mother of Buddha, or Meri, a common Egyptian name. When Greeks got hold of the myth they gave her a Latin name Maria, cognate of Marius. Petra in Greek is feminine so that was flipped that to Petros. The first the Jews heard about this myth was circa 120. Meir, the sage, read the book in Greek. He called it the Aven Gilyon, “an edition of inquity.” But they knew the god in the myth with the Greek name by his original Hindi name and it was never changed.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 7:58:57 AM PDT by idov
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To: idov; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; Greetings_Puny_Humans; daniel1212; roamer_1; GarySpFc
But maybe, as this writer, dealing with the claim that "Iesous" or "Jesus" is a pagan corruption, states, you can "simply take "Yahshua" and extricate "Ahshu" from it and now we have a name which is derived directly from that of the Hindu goddess Shiva and Ya is the heathen god of Ebla. And that cloud passing overhead looks like a poodle, therefore it is a poodle."

Are you saying His original name was Yeshu versus 'Yehoshua/"Yeshua'" or that these come from Yeshu from India? And that Yehoshua was not a common name in the time of the Second Temple?

And this is something you have objectively researched and thus hold that this means Yehoshua/"Yeshua did not exist, but that the story of Christ "came from straight from Egyptian mythology" as your author (unless you are him) contends? (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/survey-says-jews-killed-jesus-the-guy-was-a-myth/)

It is a rare opportunity to have a published author post here on FR and be able to converse on the subject matter. For that I thank you (if indeed you are Mr. Dov Ivry).

Daniel1212 brought up some valid points in his comments and links in previous posts. I will point out the Jewish tradition from which you gain your insight into the origin of the Anglicized form name of Jesus is one such Hebrew insight and opinion. For Christianity is of origin to the Hebrew/Jewish religion and such our very first members were Jews. One such opinion to our Hebrew Christian brethren is the following:

The name "Jesus" is an Anglicized form of the Greek name Yesous found in the New Testament, which represented the Hebrew Bible name Yeshua ("Jeshua" in English Bibles; Ezra 2:2; Neh 7:7). Yeshua, in turn, was a shortened form of the name Yehoshua ("Joshua" in English Bibles).

"Yehoshua" is a compound name consisting of two elements.

(1) The prefix "Yeho–" is an abbreviation of the Tetragrammaton, God's Four-Letter Name: Yod-He-Vav-He or YHVH.

In the Hebrew Bible "Yeho-" is used at the beginning of certain proper names: Jehoshaphat, Jehoiachin, Jehonathan (the "J" was pronounced as "Y" in Medieval English). The suffix form of the Tetragrammaton is "-yah" ("-iah" in Greek, as in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zechariah, or Halleluiah).

(2) The second element is a form of the Hebrew verb yasha which means to deliver, save, or rescue.

Thus, linguistically, the name Yehoshua/Yeshua/Jesus conveys the idea that God (YHVH) delivers (his people).

Source: Hebrew Streams: http://www.hebrew-streams.org/frontstuff/jesus-yeshua.html

You are an author/reporter therefore the link for further research if you care to do so.

Another good Jewish scholar source to expand your understanding of the firm Jewish roots of Christianity is Dr. David H. Stern. He authored the English translation of the OT and NT called the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB). Dr. Stern provides his research on the name of Jesus Christ and its Hebrew roots both in his introduction to the CJB and within the commentaries of the NT specifically Luke chapter 1.

I hope these references will broaden your horizon on the subject matter. As a reporter, I am sure you appreciate the great value multiple sources:)

Shalom Aleichem

19 posted on 08/19/2014 10:23:37 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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