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Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail
NBC ^ | Emily Boman

Posted on 08/17/2014 3:01:09 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Eye for an eye is quite just”.

Okey doke...if we are all prepared to live by that law. But think about what you are saying and the affect on civilization as we know it in this country.


61 posted on 08/17/2014 7:24:19 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Morgana
There is a hierarchy in prison. And child molesters are at the bottom of that hierarchy.


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62 posted on 08/17/2014 7:27:33 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Morgana

No. No one should be tortured in custody. Rape is a form of torture

If the people do not have the courage to give harsh sentences, it is not up to the prisoners to do the dirty work.

We live in a culture with no courage.


63 posted on 08/17/2014 7:27:34 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Morgana

Aw, gee, too bad.

I hear a tiny violin playing in the distance.


64 posted on 08/17/2014 7:32:39 PM PDT by bgill
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To: berdie
I am. You need to think about what effect on civilization your attitude has had.

People have become too gutless to maintain civilization at all.

Where we once judged actions we now dither over whether we should judge at all.

We weep for the poor predator and say that if only his victim had not provoked him by being where he was then the tragedy would not have happened. The predator was just another victim. He should be given warm milk and cookies.

When someone suggests that maybe the predator should be dealt with so there are not more victims they are treated as the true villain.

And so for want of courage civilization is being lost as the predators become bolder and the protectors are silenced.

65 posted on 08/17/2014 7:37:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“People have become too gutless to maintain civilization at all.”

If we were talking about Ferguson, Mo. I would not argue.

But we are on a different subject.

My attitude is this...give the perpretrator an adequate sentence. And don’t add to that sentence with vigilante justice. In any form.

I don’t feel he should be given milk and cookies or become a victim. Conversely...I don’t believe in “jailhouse justice”.

From what I read, the crime of “sexual predator” encompasses a huge range of crimes. From “ Romeo & Juliette” to exposure or peeing on the side of the road. Many plead out because they are afraid of a jury trial. The article is pretty brief. The guy may be as guilty as sin for all I know (or you know) But all it takes is an accusation. That could happen to you or me or anybody. So be careful about saying you are willing to take a punishment such as rape in addition to incarceration.

The guy is going to prison. That is his sentence. And if the guy is guilty of the worst of the worst...prison is what his sentence is.


66 posted on 08/17/2014 8:14:53 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Morgana

"Hey, we all need friends in here. I could be a friend to you"

67 posted on 08/17/2014 8:54:55 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Morgana

even Dr. Spock’s kids, said he was a terrible father.


68 posted on 08/17/2014 9:16:01 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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To: JRandomFreeper

He may have been raped with a broom handle or a bottle.


69 posted on 08/17/2014 9:29:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

That’s what they did to Dahmer.


70 posted on 08/17/2014 9:29:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

He got what he did to the children. Quite apropos, I’d say.


71 posted on 08/17/2014 9:39:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

“even Dr. Spock’s kids, said he was a terrible father.”

I did not know this. Still I’d rather have Dr. Spock over Dr. Kinsey as a father.


72 posted on 08/17/2014 10:31:59 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
true..after his acclimated research was published,
he revealed himself as a sexual weirdo.
73 posted on 08/18/2014 12:24:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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To: Morgana
kinsey, that is. 😕
74 posted on 08/18/2014 12:25:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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To: MrEdd
If it is beyond the power of government to make neighborhoods safe for people who do not harm others, how is it that you came up with a notion that it is even possible to make life safe for violent people (many of whom should justly have been executed) to be safe while incarcerated together?

There's that word "together". If we give the little thugs very small private cells, with solitary confinement 23 hours a day, and stagger their hour out so that we let fewer of them out at any one time, they should be much safer. They will be alone and therefore safe most of the time. When out, there will be fewer to watch, and we can keep them safe. They may be miserable being alone so much, but I'm okay with that.

75 posted on 08/18/2014 2:07:10 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: berdie
I never said I support jail house justice. In fact I stated earlier in the thread that I do not.

However I did state that is that eye for an eye is just.

When you wander away from that in any direction then you are wandering away from civilization. Justice must not either over or under sentence but the punishment should fit what the person has done. For rape the sentence should be death because you killed who the victim was. After surviving a rape the victim will have a long climb back to anywhere that resembles who they were and they will never get there. They have been changed.

From what I read, the crime of “sexual predator” encompasses a huge range of crimes. From “ Romeo & Juliette” to exposure or peeing on the side of the road.

Child rape however does not encompass a huge range of crimes. And that is what he pleaded guilty of doing.

76 posted on 08/18/2014 4:20:33 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Pollster1

Their own private little room on the public dime.

nah.

Hard labor. Bring back making little rocks out of big rocks on a chain gang, and house them in tents. And if you get corrupt DAS like Nifong or corrupt judges, throw them on the chain gang too.

I don’t go along with today’s air conditioned hotel prisons. No sale.


77 posted on 08/18/2014 4:31:10 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: berdie
Sooo...did the state fail to discharge it’s responsibilities?

He wasn't executed.

78 posted on 08/18/2014 7:51:59 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Pollster1
Our jails and prisons should be safe, even for the most evil among us. There is an element of Karma here, but I would prefer to see a proper sentence of life with no chance of parole paired with a safe confinement in solitary forever.

Prisons use power to maintain the status quo. Race fixated gangs are played off one another to distract the masses from having disputes with the prison officials.

Rape is used as a reward and a form of abuse. Prison officials look the other way while prisoners are subjugated and abused. It "keeps them in line". Even murders in prison don't warrant full investigation or prosecution.

79 posted on 08/18/2014 2:31:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I have wondered if the use of the death penalty should be expanded. Not that I think crime is more prevalent, per capita, than in the past...but because the population has risen and crime along with it.

If, or when that happens, that should be the penalty. The only “over and above” would be the incarceration. Nothing more.


80 posted on 08/18/2014 7:32:37 PM PDT by berdie
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