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Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki Racist Acts?
International Business Times ^ | August 5, 2011 | Palash Ghosh

Posted on 08/09/2014 1:11:12 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

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To: Conspiracy Guy

See, it’s that resistance to other race-types that shows our racism. You saw that with the Japanese and now with Barry’s White Hut. /sarc

HF


81 posted on 08/09/2014 8:08:23 AM PDT by holden
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To: Smokin' Joe

***I suppose a few hundred incendiary missions could have been flown first...***

A couple of days after Nagasaki we did fly a mission with incendiaries over Japan and again killed tens of thousands but no one remembers that.

What gets the leftists upset is we used ONE plane with ONE bomb. If we had used 500 planes with conventional bombs and killed the same number nothing would have been said.


82 posted on 08/09/2014 8:09:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: holden

LOL


83 posted on 08/09/2014 8:13:23 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

So true.


84 posted on 08/09/2014 8:14:18 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: sushiman
Might want to look at anti-German sentiment in WWI. Cities names were changed from German spelling to English.
German competitions like Shutzenfest were done away with, some German families homes were confiscated.

Even in England the House of Battenburg became Mountbatten.

85 posted on 08/09/2014 8:17:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

The “America was wrong to nuke Japan” crowd doesn’t seem to get it.

It took 2 nukes to get the Japanese attention, one wasn’t enough.

Even then when the emperor announced surrender, the Japanese military had to fight against other Japanese military because they had no intention of quitting.

I’ve read where they were expecting 1 million allied casualties with an invasion and possibly up to half of the Japanese population.


86 posted on 08/09/2014 8:22:40 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: BigCinBigD

**We didn’t have them yet moron.***

During the Korean war General Douglas MacArthur wanted to drop non existant cobalt a-bombs on the border between China and North Korea.


87 posted on 08/09/2014 8:23:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: sushiman
***PLease explain to me why 60,000 Japanese-American kids and their parents needed to be put in camps .***

For the same reason US troops today don't trust Afghans who are their "friends".


88 posted on 08/09/2014 8:31:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: sushiman

I have American Indian ancestors. I would have been thrilled if they would have been treated anywhere nearly as nice as the Japanese Americans were during WW2.


89 posted on 08/09/2014 8:44:41 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; All
Did you notice, the author 's name on that graphic?..Dr. Seuss
(Noted Child-book Author)
He did work, for the US War Department during WWII.

Whoever said the, 'Rats weren't Racist.

90 posted on 08/09/2014 8:47:56 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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To: right-wing agnostic

My Dad was in Hiroshima 6 weeks after they dropped the bomb and then went on to be part of the occupational forces in Tokyo for about 6 mos before being shipped home.

He said that Truman did the right thing because the Japs were so dug in that if the US had been forced to invade Japan from the sea we could have lost a half a million people.


91 posted on 08/09/2014 8:52:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: OldMissileer

Thank You Sir.


92 posted on 08/09/2014 9:19:59 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: right-wing agnostic

If traitors hadn’t given away our nuclear secrets to the Ruskie Commies, we may HAVE used our nukes again and against “white people”.

Treasonous Americans created a “stalemate” and even then the world almost went MAD (mutually assured destruction) several times (including an erroneous warning to Russia to “launch” an all out attack on the US in 1983).


93 posted on 08/09/2014 9:31:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (CNN suppressed news to maintain their Baghdad bureau under Saddam; they just did the same for Hamas.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“...What gets the leftists upset is we used ONE plane with ONE bomb. If we had used 500 planes with conventional bombs and killed the same number nothing would have been said.”

RDdB hasn’t yet discovered the depth and ferocity of the Left’s opposition to this type of air power. They’ve joined in many protests against strategic bombardment of the pre-nuclear sort. A rallying point is the raids of February 1945 against Dresden (in which way more than 500 RAF and USAAF bombers dropped many thousands of bombs); it’s oft asserted that that German city had “no value as a military target”, but thirty seconds perusal of a map usually convinces honest observers otherwise.

They’ve consistently spoken against not only the mere existence of all nuclear weapons in the US armed forces, but against all air campaigns mounted by US forces, and against the acquisition of air-strike weapons systems.

Absurd enough, but in all of it they’ve been assisted by other military departments, who compete with aerial bombardment, for always scarce defense dollars. Not to mention various groups in the military and outside it, who have decided war is some sort of honorable contest, or macho posturing to see who’s toughest, sort of like a boxing match. They’ve made a fetish out of praise for the individual footsoldier, and utter phrases like “boots on the ground” as if it was a mantra. Now and then they take a break from activism and sit around congratulating themselves on their superior morality.


94 posted on 08/09/2014 10:12:21 AM PDT by schurmann
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To: right-wing agnostic

No. Next question.


95 posted on 08/09/2014 10:12:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Organic Panic; RC one

Harry Truman was a democrat so unlikely the dems would call him racist.

I happen to believe Truman did the right thing and it saved lots of lives.


96 posted on 08/09/2014 10:16:21 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: sushiman

I agree that it was as much for their protection due to the attitude toward Japan at that time. The fact of whether we would be saying that.... if it were our ancestors is irrelevant due to the facts.


97 posted on 08/09/2014 10:20:39 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

The muzzies should have learned a lesson DO NOT fly planes into us.


98 posted on 08/09/2014 10:55:33 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: IMR 4350

A lot of the America was wrong crowd are just young and ignorant due to revisionist history and the annual articles like this one. Japanese atrocities against most of anyone non-Japanese civilians, Australian POWs, British POWs, American POWs showed their total lack of honor and their belief they were the superior race. I guess it was racist of the US to kick their racist butts. There will be a few more days of this BS. This crowd won’t say a word on December 7th. But next August it will be the same bunch with the same BS. I missed it last year because I was on vacation and out of the country. The internment crowd are really amusing. There is no connection to the A-Bombs but it helps perpetrate the racist myth. The biggest racist in WWII were the Japanese, the Nazis, and the Russians who controlled the Soviet Party.


99 posted on 08/09/2014 11:31:32 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: holden

“... Prisoners took over the camp and organized, sending out scouting patrols that eventually met up with Americans on the ground near Nagasaki, through which the camp’s prisoners that could travel then evacuated by ship. ...”

Additionally, Imperial Japan maintained a large number of POW camps in Korea and mainland China. Word among US forces then preparing for invasion of the Home Islands, was that the Imperial government had already let the Allies know (by informal back-channel diplomatic contacts, one surmises) that the moment the first Allied soldier set one foot on the Home Islands, every last POW would be put to the sword.

The precipitous surrender evidently caught would-be POW executioners by surprise. But the Imperial Japanese were not above playing the victims even then: all camp guards and administrators outside the Home Islands instantly cut off what spare rations the POWs had been getting, stopped every bit of meager support and care they’d been providing. Allied authorities, properly alarmed, made vigorous protests but were told by Japanese counterparts, “Hey, we just surrendered to you. We’re the victims here! These people aren’t our problem. You figure it out.”

The Allies had not yet deployed any occupation forces to any spot that had been under Imperial Japanese control, and no matter how upset they might become, they were in no position to compel behavior by Japanese forces: “Feed those POWs or we’ll ... ???”

No Allied airlifter bases were sufficiently close to these camps to airlift supplies. Allied warships (submarines excepted) were many days’ steaming time from any coast in question, and in any case had no capability to airlift any supplies so far inland (carrier aircraft hadn’t the range nor load capabilities).

Every possibility loomed, that huge numbers of POWs might starve before rescuers could get there. What to do?

Then someone suggested it: use USAAF’s B-29s.

The largest bombers then in operation, they were the only aircraft with the range, payload, and numbers to get there, drop supplies, and come back.

And so the most powerful bomber force ever to drop munitions in anger loaded up and ventured forth on a mission of mercy to aid POWs, mere days after applying the last touches to the “rain of ruin from the air” President Truman had promised the Imperial Japanese.


100 posted on 08/09/2014 12:05:11 PM PDT by schurmann
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