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Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki Racist Acts?
International Business Times ^ | August 5, 2011 | Palash Ghosh

Posted on 08/09/2014 1:11:12 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

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To: right-wing agnostic

No.

However, the Rape of Nanking and the Holocaust WERE.

Both the Nazis and the Japanese were racists of the sort that would make Simon Lagree look like a civil rights leader.


61 posted on 08/09/2014 5:57:17 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: N. Theknow

Bingo! Or if you have more time, and less money to travel, read one of the many good histories of events. I suggest With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E. B. Sledge and The Battle of Okinawa: The Blood and the Bomb by George Feifer.


62 posted on 08/09/2014 5:59:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; OldMissileer
No sure on Your question.

Fat Man had a “soccer ball” type trigger- HE in a ball shape imploding the core to compress and start the reaction.

Little Boy was a “cannon” type- a tube with the nuke material being driven like a piston to initiate.

Maybe OM can tell us the answer to Your question.

63 posted on 08/09/2014 6:02:15 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: right-wing agnostic

“Racism” is in the eye of the racist, no matter what his/her own race may be, and in an any social, political, or financial gain to be had by use of the accusation thereof.

Were all born the race we will always be, and to go thru life with an inferiority complex about it is futile.

If a group of a different race attacks your country, they are enemy, bent on your destruction, and retaliation should survival-based, not social justice.


64 posted on 08/09/2014 6:09:25 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Put down the crack pipe for a moment . PLease explain to me why 60,000 Japanese-American kids and their parents needed to be put in camps .


65 posted on 08/09/2014 6:11:20 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: right-wing agnostic

Was the firebombing of Dresden a racist act?


66 posted on 08/09/2014 6:12:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: IMR 4350

” The roundup was a much for their protection as ours.”

Would you be saying that if YOU or your ancestors has been put in camps ???


67 posted on 08/09/2014 6:12:35 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Yes.

I’m smart enough to know if my ancestors had been slaughtered I wouldn’t exist.


68 posted on 08/09/2014 6:34:56 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: mabarker1; 2ndDivisionVet

Fat Man was an “Implosion-type” weapon using a hollow sphere of Plutonium that was surrounded by shaped charges of high explosives. The shaped charges were designed to created a near-perfect implosion wave that crushes the Plutonium sphere to reach critical mass.

Little Boy was a “Gun-Assembled” type weapon that used enriched Uranium. A slug of this Uranium was placed at the end of a cut off gun barrel and fired down the barrel. The other end of the barrel had rings of the Uranium as the target and when the slug entered inside the rings it created the necessary critical mass. A very simple design.

Neither bomb dropped on Japan was an H-Bomb (actually called a Thermonuclear Weapon) as the very first Thermonuclear detonation was on 1 Nov 1952 named Operation Ivy-Mike. The Ivy-Mike design was the brain child of Dr. Edward Teller (a great man that I have had the honor to meet several times while I worked at the Labs).


69 posted on 08/09/2014 6:49:50 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: sushiman

So? Many of them had loyalties to Japan, just like today’s Hispanics from Mexico that wave the Mexican flag.


70 posted on 08/09/2014 6:57:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: sushiman

You have to put yourself into the context of time and the American and Japanese cultures that existed at that time. Almost all the Japanese Americans at that time still had direct ties to relatives in Japan and were felt to be a potential threat. They could have simply jailed all the adults and older teens and placed the children in foster care. But there was a damn war to fight that was not of American choosing. You’re obviously very young and prone to believing revisionist history or stupid. Japan chose the fight we chose to win. Don’t bother making any further posts to me since you have not addressed any of my points and you have failed to make a point but I responded to each non-point as a course of being fair.


71 posted on 08/09/2014 7:05:23 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: sushiman

Oh I forgot, stick the crack pipe up your behind.


72 posted on 08/09/2014 7:06:10 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: jalisco555

It was not the Emperor’s rapid surrender that accounts for my dad’s and his 1500 other camp mates’ survival after Nagasaki. Their camp, Fukuoka #17, was just enough out of range (well, 50 miles out, enough to survive in the short term) to comment how that must’ve been “one hell of an ammo dump,” only to see several of their guards lose heart and dessert, presumably to check on their nearby families’ abodes.

After further sacrifice of several prisoners, the guards that remained in the camp were overpowered then torn limb-from-limb by 90-pound men that had endured—and seen their friends succumb to—years of the most horrific torments imaginable.

Prisoners took over the camp and organized, sending out scouting patrols that eventually met up with Americans on the ground near Nagasaki, through which the camp’s prisoners that could travel then evacuated by ship. Most spent Thanksgiving around Manilla, where many pledged their attendance at yearly reunions to be held in the States.

My father, weighing in at 22kg, was not recognized when he first appeared on his parents’ doorstep.

HF


73 posted on 08/09/2014 7:13:46 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden

Oops, that was 44kg, not 22kg.
HF


74 posted on 08/09/2014 7:15:18 AM PDT by holden
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To: right-wing agnostic

No, Japan brought it on themselves. the Japanese were the racists, thinking they were smarter and better than the Koreans, the Chinese and the pale faces.


75 posted on 08/09/2014 7:19:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: IMR 4350

Good point.


76 posted on 08/09/2014 7:22:40 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I’m half German.

My grandparents made it a point not to speak German during the war and only in private with other Germans after the war.

After what the Germans did during WWII, I’m grateful the world didn’t go Roman on us and solve the German problem once and for all.


77 posted on 08/09/2014 7:31:56 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

The Soviets tried to. A lot of German families did not survive the Soviet occupation. Americans fought hard in Europe because the saw the global threat posed by Hitler and the Nazis. But as many said already on this post. Germany did not attack the US on US soil. There was a good bit of U-boat attacks on American shipping. Even right off our Atlantic coast and we really let that go on for too long trying to stay out of the fray. But most Americans did not feel the way about Germans turned Americans as they did Japanese Americans with close ties to their homeland after Pearl Harbor. As for the A-Bombs, I would have preferred instant death to torture and slow starvation on the Bataan Death march or Japanese POW camps. War is not civilized but we fought with honor against the Japanese who had no honor in this War. Then we helped rebuild Japan and the non Soviet held parts of Germany. I feel that if the treaty following WWI had not been so oppressive, Hitler would have never rose to power.


78 posted on 08/09/2014 7:50:06 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: sushiman

Anytime someone ridicules the thought of internment camps for politically unfavord groups in America I remind them of this fact.


79 posted on 08/09/2014 7:56:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

***produced that depicted the Japanese as subhuman and extremely cruel and depraved.***

One word Nanjing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Life_and_Death

and a book.

HIDDEN HORRORS OF WWII.

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Horrors-Japanese-Transitions-Asia-America/dp/0813327180

Ever notice how we cross land and sea to root out the last of the Nazi war criminals but seem to ignore the Japanese war criminals today, even when we know where they live.


80 posted on 08/09/2014 8:01:13 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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