[MtnClimber]

Thanks for the reply. It sounds like they are crazies.

[mad_as_he$$]

I have studied the SC movement in the past. The basics of their position is that when the state gives you a name(on your birth cert.) you are then the property of the state(in the simplest form). I believe there is some validity to their position. That said they have been overrun with people that just don't like authority and there is no "organized"; movement outside of small independent groups that often center on a family unit. Many Freepers hold the same beliefs as the the thinking Sc's.