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California couple struggling after being forced to pay deceased daughter’s student loans
FoxNews ^ | Agu 6, 2014 | Fox News

Posted on 08/06/2014 6:47:14 AM PDT by Innovative

Lisa Mason had taken out close to $100,000 in student loans in order to pay for nursing school, and was making payments on the debt when she died. Steve Mason said he and his wife, who had co-signed the loans, were contacted immediately after his daughter’s death and were told they must start making payments.

“We knew if she didn’t pay her debt we would be responsible by co-signing, but we didn’t know that if she died the debt would fall to us,” he said.

Mason said his daughter’s debt has ballooned to $200,000 and the payments exceed $2,000 a month.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: borrowing; college; cosign; loans; studentloans
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes they need a lawyer.

It occurs to me that, if these are private loans, not federal student loans, that they may well be dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Not knowing their financial situation of course. But the dad said their credit is ruined as they have struggled with this. Their credit can’t get any worse if they declare bankruptcy, if possible.

bottom line they need legal advice.

I knew somebody whose husband died. They had a bunch of credit card debt. Some in both names, some just in the deceased husband’s name. She was responsible for all of it. She ended up declaring bankruptcy and was relieved of the debt.


61 posted on 08/06/2014 7:41:46 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: cloudmountain
Maybe some sharp attorney will advise them to do something clever. I hope so.

Why? So the debt is spread out to everyone else? Maybe you enjoy paying for everyone else but I'm sick and tired of it. They co-signed so it's their debt. It's not my debt.

62 posted on 08/06/2014 7:44:21 AM PDT by bgill
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To: petitfour
How did a 27 year old get a liver disease?

You don't have to be an alcoholic to get liver diseases. There's more than one kind. Bad things happen to good people.

63 posted on 08/06/2014 7:50:31 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Innovative

Next time get a Life Insurance Policy with the Co Signers being the Beneficiaries.


64 posted on 08/06/2014 7:55:35 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Things can always be worse and the Democrat Party is here to prove it.)
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To: ottbmare

Huh? I never said anything about alcohol. I was wondering what kind of liver disease she had. A friend of mine had a liver disease when he was in his 20s. It didn’t kill him until he was around 50.


65 posted on 08/06/2014 7:56:49 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t think this was a high cost school.

25k a year? If includes tuition, room and board sounds about right.


66 posted on 08/06/2014 8:00:36 AM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: aomagrat

Same here. Learned that lesson the hard way. I’ve worked way too hard to allow someone else to screw up the credit rating I’ve earned.


67 posted on 08/06/2014 8:02:07 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: moehoward

After your mention of other articles, I did a search and indeed there are several with additional information.

Here is one:

“Originally for $100,000, the total due increased to $200,000 due to late fees and a hefty 12% interest rate.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-couple-forced-pay-deceased-daughter-student-loans-article-1.1883735

Why would they take out a loan at that huge interest rate?!


68 posted on 08/06/2014 8:02:08 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

“We knew if she didn’t pay her debt we would be responsible by co-signing, but we didn’t know that if she died the debt would fall to us,” he said.


Life is hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.


69 posted on 08/06/2014 8:04:35 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Innovative

Got me….maybe they didn’t shop.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2709131/Grieving-parents-hit-200-000-bill-daughters-student-loans-died-suddenly.html

As usual, the dailymail has lots of details.

Sounds like she got new loans as she went along with her education. The article says some of the lenders have been working with them, some aren’t.


70 posted on 08/06/2014 8:08:23 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Nevadan; E. Pluribus Unum

Well, for one thing they didn’t expect that their daughter would die in her twenties. No one does.


Any time I’ve bought something expensive on credit (house, car, etc) I’ve opted for the insurance to pay off in the event of death. Then again, I’ve worked casualty so I’m under no illusions of immortality.


71 posted on 08/06/2014 8:08:25 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: camle

Apparently the banks considered her a high risk borrower, in a CNN article it said she was paying 12% interest rate and the parents weren’t making payments for some time, that’s how $100K grew to $200K — apparently the loans were taken out years ago and she died some four years ago.

Sad, but that’s why people need to think of the worst that can happen and take that into account, when making decisions.


72 posted on 08/06/2014 8:10:06 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Texas Eagle

Ditto.


73 posted on 08/06/2014 8:25:51 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Texas Eagle

“I have family members who are nurses and there ain’t no way they paid 100,000 dollars for their education.”

That is what I was thinking how could someone pay 100k for nursing school. Was she at Harvard.


74 posted on 08/06/2014 8:31:05 AM PDT by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: Texas Eagle
I have family members who are nurses and there ain't no way they paid 100,000 dollars for their education.

The problem is that the people offering the loans are predatory lender, but more of a problem are the kids who use these loans for all sorts of things other than books, tuition and basics. They go out and party on the money by expensive toys and live in the fantasy world that the bill won't come due.

75 posted on 08/06/2014 8:32:00 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“What kind of interest rate are they charging for the student loans if they double in four years?”

According to the Rule of 72, the interest rate would be 18%.


76 posted on 08/06/2014 8:35:05 AM PDT by mouske
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I thought if it was in the dead spouse’s name only, the surviving spouse is not obligated to pay. If they left an estate, it comes out of the estate. But if not, I don’t think the spouse has to pay. Though the credit companies will try, very hard. It may depend on state laws.


77 posted on 08/06/2014 8:36:51 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Innovative

12%???? wow! that sure ain’t your typical student loan rate!


78 posted on 08/06/2014 8:37:11 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Innovative

They Co signed the loan. If the party defaults, sadly in this case by dying, they are still responsible.


79 posted on 08/06/2014 8:46:05 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: Innovative

Never, never, never, never co-sign ANY type of loan. The requirement for a co-signer is just the lender telling the borrowers up front that they already know that they will be collecting from the co-signers. People would be better off to take the loan directly and then personally collect from the other party....at least then you get to avoid the shock of the inevitable.

If you are currently in a situation where you have co-signed, you should immediately purchase a term life insurance policy on the party that was the 1st borrower.


80 posted on 08/06/2014 9:10:01 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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