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Kelsey Grammer Forgives the Man Who Raped and Killed His Sister After Tearful Confession
Daily Mail ^ | 7-30-2014 | Heidi Parker

Posted on 07/30/2014 5:55:07 PM PDT by equalator

Kelsey Grammer forgave the man who raped and murdered his sister but said that he should not be released, during an emotional testimony at the killer's parole hearing on Tuesday.

The 59-year-old Frasier star testified against 57-year-old Freddie Glenn who kidnapped and murdered his 18-year-old sister, Karen Elisa Grammer, in 1975 when she was leaving her job at a Red Lobster in Colorado Springs.

'I accept that you live with remorse, but I live with tragedy every day,' the Cheers star said via satellite link at a Colorado parole hearing.

'I accept your apology. I forgive you. However, I cannot give your release my endorsement.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: TChad

According to his Wikipedia page, he had yet another friend who was murdered by his wife. This guy has been through hell, and it’s great to see that he’s strong in spite of all these unfortunate occurrences.


61 posted on 07/30/2014 11:28:23 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Slavery, genocide, and imperialism aren't exclusively white institutions.)
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To: GeronL

true justice is a foundational piece of true forgiveness. it’s hard to forgive if you feel you haven’t gotten justice.


62 posted on 07/30/2014 11:32:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Organic Panic

I don’t think it makes him a better man.

God I hate this squirrely shite our culture became


63 posted on 07/30/2014 11:32:59 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: equalator

When I was 20 my 18 year old sister was raped and beaten in Seattle. The police came to my house and took me to the hospital in see her,saying she had been in an accident.
I saw her there on a gurney in the hallway all beaten and cut up. The first thing she said?
I forgive him.
I’m sure that this was very influential in shaping the rest of her life. Bigger woman than I.


64 posted on 07/30/2014 11:33:13 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

you are deceived if you beleve this.

men and women are capable of great evil without any prodding or possession from demons. read up on the wickedness of the human heart.


65 posted on 07/30/2014 11:34:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Hate to break it to you but guys like him flourish in the joint

Its not the punishment you think


66 posted on 07/30/2014 11:34:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: EricT.

Utter bullshit


67 posted on 07/30/2014 11:35:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: jocon307; Squantos; Pelham; CatherineofAragon; Travis McGee; Black Agnes

Jesus would say you got lucky you weren’t executed....do your time....you did after all rape and murder a near child girl

“Dad and I will deal with the judgement thingie in good time....you might not like the outcome”

As for you Freepers thinking its so noble to forgive and let go of someone who raped.....now think about it....last thing this poor girl knew was this crap DNA animal penetrating her and beating her before he killed her....its bad enough knowing you’re fixing to die painfully and at the ripe old age of 18....all your dreams taken by some racist pig but hey I gets worse....you get raped too.....no female should ever endure such....its not forgivable if you think about it

The pain and anguish and fear and humiliation and anxiety she endured knowing death was leering over his shoulder as he literally entered he body in the most intimate fashion....with murder on his mind.....that is pure evil

That is nothing but pure horror that should not even be meted out to enemies who deserve it

Its simply not forgivable..... and if it was the only one who has that authority is the poor dead girl

Such notions I see on this thread explain clearly how we lost our culture and country

One my ancestors died for.

Its pathetic.


68 posted on 07/30/2014 11:49:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: wardaddy

Second that.


69 posted on 07/31/2014 12:22:31 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Politicalkiddo
This guy has been through hell, and it’s great to see that he’s strong in spite of all these unfortunate occurrences.

I wonder if he would agree with you that he was "strong." I don't think that losing people close to me has made me any stronger, and none of them were murdered. He is surviving and moving on. I have no idea if his offer of forgiveness was real or wishful thinking or something else.

Some things are just about impossible to really forgive. You might say the words, but if the wound is deep enough, they mean nothing. Your body knows better.

70 posted on 07/31/2014 12:40:46 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: jocon307

I thought about this when the rash of mothers murdering their families happened.

O.K....so you are nuts...I get that. They probably are. But you are in a mental institution for your punishment. Just because you are “better” should not allow you to go free.

Myself, I wouldn’t even want to go free. What if my cheese slipped off my cracker again? I would be terrified of myself.

The guy in the OP...same thing. Serve your dang time and try to do right where you are.


71 posted on 07/31/2014 12:56:57 AM PDT by berdie
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To: fidelis

A prayer written by men! The Lord God also said “AN EYE FOR AN EYE, A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH, A LIFE FOR A LIFE”. THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT MURDER.


72 posted on 07/31/2014 1:04:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: scouter

How do YOU know it’s not true?


73 posted on 07/31/2014 1:04:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: packrat35

Agreed; forgiveness is GODS business, not mine.
If a murdering subhuman rabid animal like this wants forgiveness, I will be more than happy to arrange the meeting.


74 posted on 07/31/2014 1:04:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: fidelis

Even Jesus said to sell your coat and buy a sword.


75 posted on 07/31/2014 1:04:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: TChad

The fact that he hasn’t killed himself indicates to me he has some measure of strength. Telling the man that raped and murdered your sister that you forgive him, to his face, no less, is strength. He’s managed to make his life work. Many people decide to give up on life because one person they know dies. He’s had to deal with 6 or more. It’s hard for many people to see their strength, and sometimes it’s easier for others to do so. From what I can see, this man has strength.


76 posted on 07/31/2014 2:54:27 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Slavery, genocide, and imperialism aren't exclusively white institutions.)
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To: wardaddy

Concur ..... Many look at me with confusion when we see such on the nooooze these days and I say ...... Let the murdering SOB go free.

Easier for the MEN in the victims family to get to the piece of shit than having him safe in jail getting three hots and a cot for life.

I try not to get mad, just get even. Revenge is a dish that should always be served cold....really cold.

My opinion .....stay safe WD !


77 posted on 07/31/2014 3:31:41 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: wardaddy

What part? The forgiveness or letting that POS rapist and murderer rot in prison?


78 posted on 07/31/2014 4:29:55 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: jocon307
Oh my gosh, he killed THREE people and there is any consideration of letting him go?

Charles Manson comes up for a parole hearing every few years; 12 times since 1978.

It should surprise nobody that he gets summarily denied every single time ...

79 posted on 07/31/2014 4:37:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 5th MEB

Forgiveness IS our business if we are to be Christ-like. We must forgive and leave vengeance to the Lord.


80 posted on 07/31/2014 4:59:37 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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