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Well Being: Melting that old advice about ice
Philly.com ^ | 7-27-14 | Art Carey

Posted on 07/27/2014 1:46:19 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

For decades, the standard method for treating injuries was RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation.

Everyone from Little League coaches to pro sports trainers knows icing is a sure way to reduce swelling, inflammation and pain, and speed healing. That has been the conventional wisdom.

Now comes Gary Reinl, with 40 years of experience in sports, fitness, and rehab, with an iconoclastic message. In his self-published book ICED!, Reinl argues that icing is not only wrong - "an illusionary treatment" - but also counterproductive and harmful.

"There's not a shred of evidence that icing is helpful," Reinl said. "To the contrary, it does the opposite. It delays healing, it increases swelling, causes additional damage, and shuts off signals that alert the body to harmful movement."

And yet, Reinl laments, "everyone does it."

Why?

"Because a myth is hard to undo."

Reinl, 61, lives in Henderson, Nev., a suburb of Las Vegas. He grew up in Aldan, Delaware County, and is a proud original member of "Pat Croce's posse." In 1973, he opened the seventh Nautilus gym in the world, he says, where he worked with pro athletes such as Franco Harris. He was also an early advocate of strength training for pregnant women. Later, as general manager of the medical division of Nautilus, he developed a widely adopted strength-training protocol for the elderly. Hired by the company that became Novacare, he steered the nursing-home division into "sports medicine for 95-year-olds."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Health/Medicine; Sports
KEYWORDS: healing; ice; injury; science

1 posted on 07/27/2014 1:46:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Opinions?

I never thought much of ice as a palliative treatment for injury. Frankly, I prefer heat. However, when I had a knee replacement a year ago, I found that ice wraps after rehab exercises were soothing. Was that my imagination?


2 posted on 07/27/2014 1:48:17 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; tioga

Interesting article here about ice.


3 posted on 07/27/2014 1:49:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have some trouble with sore feet and a soothing treatment is to freeze a plastic bottle of water, and wearing socks, roll the frozen bottle back and forth under my feet. Works great. Hint: pour a little of the water out before freezing to allow for expansion of the ice.


4 posted on 07/27/2014 1:56:54 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think Kevin Everett formerly of the Buffalo Bills would disagree. they lowered his body temp to reduce swelling following a catastrophic injury to his spine. He walks today because of it!


5 posted on 07/27/2014 2:02:48 PM PDT by RebelTXRose (SECURE THE BORDER!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No, ice helped me when I had knee replacement....both times. I did use heat for pain though. It was very helpful.


6 posted on 07/27/2014 2:09:56 PM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: FrankR

Put the sock on the bottle and it works even better.


7 posted on 07/27/2014 2:11:15 PM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He’s pimping his book.

Not that that is prima facie evidence of him being wrong. Just something that might may you say Hmmmm....


8 posted on 07/27/2014 2:11:42 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Moltke

may -—> make


9 posted on 07/27/2014 2:13:03 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: RebelTXRose

They did that with my dog, but they used Prednisone to reduce the swelling. She lived to 15 1/2, although she always walked a little funny. (Ruptured disc.) The experimental treatment that she received at UW Madison Vet clinic was adopted nationwide for spinal cord injuries a year late.


10 posted on 07/27/2014 2:13:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

rehab??
A general manager for a division? Any hands-on post-trauma experience? Outside the..... uh,... gym, maybe?


11 posted on 07/27/2014 2:15:28 PM PDT by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being decapitated)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Headlines in 30 years:

“3 silent killers”

Oatmeal: The Silent Killer

Exercise: The Silent Killer

Jogging: The Silent Killer

Fat moves to base of food pyramid

Government health experts encourage people to eat more fat

More Doctors Agree: Smoking good for you

Brushing teeth wear them down faster; American Dental Association urges toothbrush ban

And so on and so forth....


12 posted on 07/27/2014 2:18:02 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I found that ice wraps after rehab exercises were soothing. Was that my imagination?

No. Ice freezes the cells and nerves. Ergo you feel less pain. However, freezing kills the cells.

Ice was used to 'soothe' the pain in our past, because it was much easier to find around the house than a hypodermic injection of local anesthetic.

13 posted on 07/27/2014 2:23:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: RebelTXRose

“I think Kevin Everett formerly of the Buffalo Bills would disagree. they lowered his body temp to reduce swelling following a catastrophic injury to his spine. He walks today because of it!”

They did it to prepare for his operation. It did NOT contribute to his healing ...


14 posted on 07/27/2014 2:43:12 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: jch10

I put a little whiskey in with the ice and drink it, which makes everything feel better, not just my feet.


15 posted on 07/27/2014 3:50:28 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Moltke

It’s pimping his book. What nonsense. I’ve had the double knee replacement as others posting here have. I’ve had EMT & other medical training, and I’ve had plenty of injuries.
When applied properly cooling just plain works.


16 posted on 07/27/2014 3:59:31 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: UCANSEE2

If you are freezing the cells it is improper application.


17 posted on 07/27/2014 4:01:49 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m an ACE fitness trainer. Back in February, I attended two different seminars about RICE. One pro swore by it, another swore at it. Sigh.


18 posted on 07/27/2014 6:06:09 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: LachlanMinnesota

So right....LOL


19 posted on 07/27/2014 6:24:55 PM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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