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How high should tax rates go? Obama: ‘I don’t have a particular number in mind’
AEIdeas ^ | 07/25/2014 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 07/26/2014 8:52:45 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Here is President Obama in a chat yesterday with CNBC’s Steve Liesman:

STEVE LIESMAN: Mr. President, ... You’ve said a bunch of times that getting the wealthy to pay a little bit more, and you’ve succeeded in raising that top tax rate to 39% or rolling back the tax cuts. Is there a limit there? Is there a limit to how much you believe the government should take from an individual in terms of a top tax rate?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: You know, I don’t have a particular number in mind, but if you look at our history we are still well below what, you know, the marginal tax rates were under Dwight Eisenhower or, you know, all the way up even through Ronald Reagan. Tax rates are still lower on average for most folks. And what that means is that we probably can make some more headway in closing loopholes that folks take advantage of. As opposed to necessarily raising marginal rates.

The president’s answer certainly suggests,... that he believes the US is nowhere close to the danger zone. If so, he is merely in sync with top left-leaning economists — such as Peter Diamond, Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez — who argue for top rates in the 70% to 80% range, if not higher. Oh, and at the same time the high-tax crowd would close tax loopholes and increase tax enforcement to limit avoidance.

Interestingly, Obama wrote in The Audacity of Hope that the real problem with the 70% tax rate that existed when Ronald Reagan was president was not that it “curbed incentives to work or invest” but that it led “to a wasteful industry of setting up tax shelters.” So maybe Obama thinks a 70% rate with little to avoid it would be just fine.

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

he would want even higher because 100% just represents their income. He wants their property and savings


21 posted on 07/26/2014 9:12:48 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Rusty0604

Obama doesn’t really have anything in mind ...... other than hate for whitey and Christians and Jews.


22 posted on 07/26/2014 9:12:58 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Rusty0604
By the way, miss Romney yet. None of this shi! would be happening. Make the same mistake in 2016 and the wedge between the Constitution and Hell will surely be in place. Hell will win.
23 posted on 07/26/2014 9:13:56 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: plain talk
He taxed the medical device manufacturers at 1% of REVENUES, not profit.

That puts them all out of business. In the US, anyway.

24 posted on 07/26/2014 9:15:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Much higher!

Just to be in balance now we all “have to pay a little more” since Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner’s line of credit to Obama permits Obama to spend $1.40 for every $1 taken in by hard-working US taxpayers.

FORWARD, into the death spiral of Boehner-Obama Debt!


25 posted on 07/26/2014 9:20:06 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Rusty0604

No mention of loop holes during those high marginal rate days.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 9:22:30 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Laffer curve tells us there is an optimal tax rate beyond which revenues diminish.

That's not the real lesson, however. The real lesson is that in all cases except one, there are two rates that generate the same revenue from tax collections. In your figure, draw a horizontal line that cuts the tax curve at 35% and extend it to the right and somewhere around 90% is a rate that generates the same revenues as does 35%. Personally, the max point at 70% is Liberal BS. Empirical studies in India and the UK show the rate to be around 32%, but varies with exemptions and deductions. Friedman suggests it's 17%, with zero deductions.

For Obozo to criticize tax payers for "taking advantage" of loopholes, who does he think wrote the tax code? You politicians put those in because you thought it would enhance your chances for reelection. A bad case of pot-kettle-black.

27 posted on 07/26/2014 9:22:52 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Logical me

None of this crap would be happening if the GOP had spines.

And no, I don’t miss the baby-killing creator of RomneyCare and homo “marriage”.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 9:28:33 AM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: Rusty0604

Income taxes are the same thing as slavery. If the definition of slavery is a 100% income tax rate, then any lesser percentage is merely a matter of degree.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 9:30:24 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Rusty0604

Obama needs to sign an executive order giving the IRS power to set the tax rate for individuals. That way, anyone labeled a conservative or who refuses to donate to Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, can be taxed 100%. And those who do donate get the minimum rate. Whatever the IRS decides. And this time it will be “legal.”


30 posted on 07/26/2014 9:34:40 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rusty0604

6 minute video on the subject!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZsBb3PF6Y


31 posted on 07/26/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

6 minute video on the subject!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZsBb3PF6Y


32 posted on 07/26/2014 9:40:05 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Graewoulf

6 minute video on the subject!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZsBb3PF6Y


33 posted on 07/26/2014 9:40:43 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Rusty0604
the question should have been posed; how much of their hard earned money should the citizens be allowed to keep?
34 posted on 07/26/2014 9:44:10 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think it is 2.3%.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 9:46:42 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Gaffer

“White folks greed leaves a word in need”

That’s where his thinking starts and that’s where it stops.

Western/white civilization has developed at the expense of the rest of the world.

His plans don’t include anyone of any race bettering themselves, it’s just tear down whites.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 9:49:36 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: econjack
For Obozo to criticize tax payers for "taking advantage" of loopholes...

Except for GE. It's OK when GE pays zero percent by taking advantage of "loopholes."

37 posted on 07/26/2014 9:50:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
0bummer countdown.
38 posted on 07/26/2014 9:52:08 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Rusty0604

Why doesn’t he go after the tax exempt trusts that all his one percent of the one percent buddies hide their billions in?


39 posted on 07/26/2014 9:56:30 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Don Corleone

Not only that, but the .gov ticks have another reason to like inflation: it pushes people into higher tax brackets. Win-win!


40 posted on 07/26/2014 10:04:24 AM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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