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Global warming 'pause' was a natural fluctuation, scientists say
UPI ^ | 07/22/2014 | Brooks Hays

Posted on 07/22/2014 9:37:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Global warming ‘pause’ was a natural fluctuation, scientists say...as was the rise after the last ice age and as will be the next adjustment in either direction.


41 posted on 07/22/2014 11:57:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: KSCITYBOY
Last winter was amazingly cold across much of the country -

So far this summer is the coolest I can remember.

42 posted on 07/22/2014 11:59:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

of course, their model predicted this.....................


43 posted on 07/22/2014 12:00:08 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Where is your thinking cap? The one you were issued in elementary school.)
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To: SeekAndFind

takes “man-made” out of the picture....


44 posted on 07/22/2014 12:19:25 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: SeekAndFind

As an anecdotal piece, Alpaca sock sales are doing great this summer. People remember the last winter and are stocking up on them for the upcoming winter months.


45 posted on 07/22/2014 2:19:02 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: lefty-lie-spy

There are those on the left who are motivated by concern and worry about the environment, but there are also clearly those who care primarily - if not only - about using this issue as a tool to advance their agenda and personal power. The political right and center have done, IMHO, a horrible job in dealing with the politics of this issue (the environment).

What we should be pointing out is that the biggest environmental disasters, or most rapid environmental degradation that has occurred to date have occurred under socialist/communist regimes - and that the only factor that held them back from doing more harm was the fact that their system of government ruined their economies and thus prevented them from even more careless poorly orchestrated industrial growth.

We should be pointing out that under capitalism we have grown into the world power and (until recently) economic powerhouse that we have - while all the while protecting our environment and ensuring cleaner air and water than almost all (if not all) other nations in the world.

The left characterizes the right and center as people who want to pave over the world, cut down all the trees, kill all the animals, and destroy nature - and the right and center have let them do this. It’s really ridiculous IMHO. You have to fight back against propaganda, or you will be victimized by it.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 2:28:26 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

The warming was a normal fluctuation too!


47 posted on 07/22/2014 4:11:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The climate has never ever stopped changing since this Earth has been a-round.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 4:14:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind
So frustrating to see these guys try to rework the narrative. It's really very simple. If the models cannot account for current data then they are incomplete. Period.

That isn't to say we need to stop trying to model this stuff, it just means that we can't have special rules for desirable results.

Modeling works like this: a model that illustrates the working pieces of a system and their interrelation is a descriptive model. An analogy. A is like B, at least to a degree. A model that is sufficiently rigorous to take a given system state and accurately predict how it will change over time is a predictive model. A model sufficiently rigorous to suggest a change in one of the factors in the system state that will produce a desired end state is a normative model. You cannot have a normative model that is not at least as rigorous as a predictive model.

And that's the problem here. The claim that we have knowledge of this fantastically complex system sufficient to be able to tune it by controlling CO2 emissions is that of a normative model. But the models used to develop that claim have proven insufficient to attain the status of a predictive model because they cannot predict. They need to be reworked. The conclusions offered are inherently inaccurate. This is not politics, it's a cold scientific fact.

49 posted on 07/22/2014 4:34:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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So far, the newbie troll seems to have escaped the lightning from above. Don’t know how.


50 posted on 07/22/2014 11:39:02 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan's John the Baptist, preparing the way.)
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