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1 posted on 07/17/2014 9:17:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

Charlie again.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 9:18:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Linux, Linux, Linux.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:19 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have Win7 Starter on my notebook - was thinking of putting Vista Home on it but afraid I’d loose my ASUS stuff like my wireless software ... or Xp ....


5 posted on 07/17/2014 9:25:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read the newspapers you are misinfo)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s no bias in this trash article.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 9:27:23 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Charlie or not, he does have a point. In order for MS to continue its profitability cycle, they have chosen this course, and although the description is only “basically” accurate, it's close enough to the truth to start corporate entities to begin evaluating alternative approaches/OS’s.

Most likely, MS will cave once again to the general public and continue providing “free: critical fixes to Window 7 for years to come, but that is no guarantee. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

9 posted on 07/17/2014 9:29:13 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You’d think a web site semiaccurate.com would be a clue to most people.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 9:33:42 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Semiaccurate seems to be a good name for that drivel.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 9:35:12 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article:

With Windows 8.1 they did it again, if you didn’t upgrade from 8 to 8.1, you were cut off from security patches almost immediately.

From wikipedia:
Microsoft markets Windows 8.1 as an "update" rather than as a "service pack" or "upgrade".[199] However, Microsoft's support lifecycle policy treats Windows 8.1 similarly to previous Windows service packs: it is part of Windows 8's support lifecycle, and upgrading to 8.1 is required to maintain access to mainstream support and Windows updates after January 12, 2016.

2 years is not "almost immediately." I'm using W8 and I like it, and it is fully supported with security patches. Semiaccurate.com is semi-accurate, at best.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 10:32:12 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I started out on W/98SE it had bugs but even as a Novice user I could fix issues reasonably fast. From there I tried Windows/ME. I couldn't get the OS to stop writing to the HD long enough to do a disk scan and defrag. I went back to 98/2 even with the yearly reformat it was less hassle and more reliable.

I've bought three machines with XP. All of them the OS has held up. Between three machines only one reformat and then because granddaughter locked me out of the machine. XP was a workhorse, very easy to learn and adapt to, easy to resolve issues, easy to understand.

In March because of the cut off I bought a new machine with WINDERS 8 it's 8 I hate. If I had wanted an X-Box I would have bought one. The learning curve was weeks not hours. Commands hidden in obscure locations you had to go through a lot more steps to find anything. The worst part of it was I'm on dial up. Some Twits at MS thought a nearly 900MB upgrade as they called it was great.

My complaints? IE crashes constantly. IE doesn't like it when you use windows instead of TABs. The infernal CLOUD I like to have never figured out how to stop so I could use the machine too. Hard to read Fonts sizes in the places like My PC. The Peek a Boo annoying settings in the right side that show up when you don't want them and won't show up when you do. The stupid Start Page and the Hidden X to click out. Why? Some Nerd at MS pulls these stunts just to call it an upgrade? I miss XP.

WINDERS 8 will be the last dollar from me unless they get their act together and put out a quality product once again. W/8 was put out aimed at one specific consumer base the Tablet users. The NERDS also though Touch Screen on a Desktop was a good idea. The default Mail client was pathetic. Another annoying thing is on dial up with XP I could download and still access sites. But if the machine takes a notion it has to send something it becomes unusable. Uploads should have the option of "only when machine is idle". The good old MSCONFIG works but seriously who can figure it out once you get to System Configuration? You have no way of knowing what is doing what so you can do a Selective Start Up and Services TAB is a lot worse.

W/8 isn't user friendly. Computer Geeks who like to fool around for hours on end configuring their computer may love it but for many users W/8 is a nightmare.

I understand some things change in time. I also understand an OS can only be patched so many times. BTW W/8 patches in MB's exceeds what XP had in a lifetime by at least over half already. It's junk. It's a sorry OS that look like some high schoolers were the quality assurance testers and likely even the program writers.

I've avoided LINUX because people have said you'll spend a lot of time learning it, configuring it etc. Well at least it's FREE. MS corporate arrogance abandoned the consumer base who got it to number one to start with.

23 posted on 07/17/2014 10:35:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the post. My win8.0 machine gets updates, so that part of the article is incorrect.

But look at the news of msoft layoffs as a sign of corporate health. Also, Balmer is gone along with the win8 designer- But their model is broken. MS wont disappear, just kind of tread water.

Running as a non-administator is good security practice no matter the operating system.

Ubuntu Linux on a usb drive works well for me- but so does windows 8.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 11:17:28 PM PDT by quimby
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You make less profit by selling shoddy product long term. Security conscious users have moved to Linux because MS make poor business decision. IF they think they make more profit selling insecure product, then they’re wrong


31 posted on 07/17/2014 11:52:33 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Charlie has some ax to grind.

Microsoft has its flaws but, what doesn’t.

There are tradeoffs for any OS and as far as I’m concerned I’d rather be in charge of my firewalls and other means of defense.

If Microsoft didn’t suck today, one day they would be proven vulnerable, while everyone dreamed of sugar plum fairies, only to awaken to A Nightmare on Elm street.

If Microsoft were another automobile company I’d be very happy to see their ass kicked but, they only make the engine, with other hardware providers building their version of the latest and greatest.

Apple, on the other hand, builds the whole enchilada and we rightfully expect better control over the finished product, the same as we would expect Enzo Ferrari to have final approval on something beautiful.

still, I fooking hate learning new things and if I switch to Apple I’d lose time tinkering, whereas with Microsoft I just build on what I already know.

I’m fine with “It Smells Inside” and MicroCrap.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 12:58:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Too many inaccuracies and outright lies to even bother. The claim that making 8 users upgrade to 8.1 is a shakedown? It's a free upgrade! Sheesh.
34 posted on 07/18/2014 1:52:43 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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38 posted on 07/18/2014 3:52:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Articles like this perhaps give a bit more insight into the Apple-IBM alliance announcement from earlier this week. The opportunity for OS X in the Enterprise has never been greater given these ongoing shenanigans. With IBM providing on-site support that's likely the missing piece to tip the scales for many Enterprise customers who are looking for a way out of the "Windows trap" but don't want the risks and headaches of figuring it out on their own.

Given that one of the headline features of the upcoming Yosemite release is seamless application and workflow integration between OS X and iOS that plays well into the already significant iOS penetration in the Enterprise.

40 posted on 07/18/2014 4:37:21 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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