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LonePalm | 4/18/2014 | LonePalm

Posted on 04/19/2014 9:48:57 AM PDT by LonePalm

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To: LonePalm
The solution is to pair post pubescent women with slightly older men and breed as rapidly as possible while building the infrastructure necessary for a society.

I saw the movie but I can't remember the name. It's over in the porn aisle........

21 posted on 04/19/2014 11:11:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: LonePalm; winodog

Also, usually, your story can’t change cannon of the milieu...


22 posted on 04/19/2014 11:12:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: LonePalm; winodog

err I mean canon


23 posted on 04/19/2014 11:15:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: shibumi

Interesting. That’s not quite the story I remember but that Trek episode might have been based off what I had read.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 11:15:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Spartan302

I’d rather they did John Ringo’s “Troy” series. Free-market solutions save Earth, brave military, etc. .. Plus, in one scene, the hero sasses Obama IN THE WHITE HOUSE. . .


25 posted on 04/19/2014 11:17:04 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: SamAdams76
Thank you but that is not the story.

This is NOT set on Earth but on a newly settled and basically empty planet. Travel between the stars apparently takes many years as they don't expect to be contacted again for several decades at the earliest.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

26 posted on 04/19/2014 11:18:33 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Spartan302
Thanks but it is not a BOLOS book.

As I remember the former mercenary is separated from his unit and can not return as his having sex, married or not, with a person under 18 would earn him the death sentence. The fact that there is no way for him to return makes it easier.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

27 posted on 04/19/2014 11:25:00 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I’m not certain as to whether this is a real or imagined “memory”...:)


28 posted on 04/19/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Delta Dawn

“The ordeal these people went through to reach the ground was pretty incredible. They had to evade security patrols and roving gangs of thugs and as they descended to the lower levels, well, things got more and more dangerous for them.

Hmmm...sounds like a typical day in Baltimore.”

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Definitely resembles a day trip I took with my kids to Druid Hill Park and the Zoo. Lived and learned.


29 posted on 04/19/2014 11:56:54 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: LonePalm

i don’t recall any specific story but H Beam Piper wrote numerous stories about settlement and the difficulties it might encounter. Could be in his body of work.


30 posted on 04/19/2014 12:04:11 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
No, I am intimately familiar with Piper's work. My first thought on seeing the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi was that they had plagiarized Piper's Little Fuzzy down to their clothing, spears, and sound.

I still think that they were the basis for the Ewoks. Given the time period in which the scripts were written, I don't see how Lucas could have been ignorant of Piper's work.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

31 posted on 04/19/2014 12:17:02 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

Sounds familiar, but I can’t remember. Sounds like Gordon R. Dickson or David Drake...


32 posted on 04/19/2014 1:11:10 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: LonePalm
Thanks but unfortunately I can not find a synopsis of the story to know if it is the right one.

The good news is that I probably have that issue of Analog in a box somewhere in the garage.

I strongly suspect this is the one you're looking for.

What I recollect of the plot is: military incursion fails, survivors are absorbed by the colony. The colony is young and relatively small. Huge families are encouraged, women marry when very young. Protagonist is a survivor of the initial military expedition. He's given a farm, and paired with a girl of, I think, 13. He has some misgivings but eventually kind of goes with the flow. Military off-worlders try again. The colonists, warned by the surviving invaders, successfully resist.

The story was controversial at the time, generating a stream of letters in the months following publication.

33 posted on 04/19/2014 2:05:10 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will swallow up death forever")
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To: Lee N. Field
The novel was by Robert Silverberg. I forget the title. People in the arcologies reproduced freely. People in the agricultural lands that fed the arcologies had not-nice ways of limiting population (IRRC, YMMV).

Robert Silverberg, "The World Inside"

34 posted on 04/19/2014 3:42:12 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will swallow up death forever")
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To: Lee N. Field
OK, That means that I will spend Sunday afternoon digging through boxes in the garage.

Thanks. That seems to fit the bill better than any other answers so far.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

35 posted on 04/19/2014 6:35:21 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

Sounds like Beyond the Stars by Ray Cummings.

The new planet was named Kalima, IIRC.


36 posted on 04/19/2014 7:46:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Thanks but that one was written in 2008.

I did put it in my wish list on Amazon.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

37 posted on 04/19/2014 9:19:35 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

No. The book I’m thinking of is 1960’s era.


38 posted on 04/19/2014 10:43:30 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: LonePalm
Beyond the Stars
39 posted on 04/20/2014 10:02:37 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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