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Organic food: Pricey, not particularly healthy, won't save you from cancer
The Register ^ | 4/4/2014 | Dr Pan Pantziarka

Posted on 04/05/2014 3:41:07 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: yldstrk

http://squarefootgardening.org/square-foot-gardening-method

Try this easy method. My 28 year old computer programmer son who lives in the city of Philadelphia is using this method in his back patio. The soil mix is a bit of an investment for the boxes, but once you’ve done it for the first year, you just need to augment the mixture every year. After six years growing in a large ground plot, we slowly moved all our gardening into these boxes and I wouldn’t do it any other way now. It takes out so much of the labor of vegetable plots. Our first 4x4 wood boxes deteriorated last year, so my husband made replacements out of cinder blocks. He built a tall archway frame out of plastic pipes that connects two of the boxes which we use to grow pole beans and other vining plants.

And yes! All you need to do is lay newspaper or landscaping paper in a 4x4 sunny area of your lawn; build the frame; fill the box and plant.


121 posted on 04/05/2014 11:06:26 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: nikos1121
tell me why it is that organic milk lasts ten times longer before going bad in the frig compared to regular non-organic milk?

Ten times longer? Sure. Organic milk lasts longer because producers use a different process to preserve it. That's it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's organic. Google UHT pasteurization for an explanation. Organic is good for people who like paying more for their food. Organic does a great job of separating foolish people from their money. That's about it.

122 posted on 04/05/2014 12:40:29 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: crazycatlady

It’s tough to avoid plastic from coming into contact with hot food. Even with what is now an innate sense of caution, within the hour, I was on an errand and stopped for a quick cup of coffee at a convenience store — in a disposable styrofoam cup, of course.


123 posted on 04/05/2014 12:41:31 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 9YearLurker
Except your Roundup goes into my water supply.

There's a lot more benzene in your water than glyphosate. Which of the two do you think is more toxic? Of course, you shouldn't be worried about either.

124 posted on 04/05/2014 12:43:39 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The chicken situation in this country is disgusting. Slimy awful parts in plastic. I generally stick to Kosher.


125 posted on 04/05/2014 1:03:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Little Bill

I have trouble growing herbs in pots inside because I don’t get enough sun. But I’m lucky that I have a small herb garden. Summer is coming and herb prices should go down.


126 posted on 04/05/2014 1:08:00 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Rockingham
Plastic and plastic lined food containers are also a problem, especially if they are heated or used in cooking.

This is nothing more than chemicalphobia and this science of junk won't die the death it so deserves because the media refuses to report the truth. The alleged health effects associated with phthalates and BPA are not back up by sound science. These same people also claim that BPA is just like estrogen when the structures of these two compounds look nothing alike.

I'd hazard a guess that your fear of the other so called "POP's" is also based on an irrational fear of chemicals. This fear is constantly fomented by the toxic terrorists.

A Toxic Setback for the Anti-Plastic Campaigners

127 posted on 04/05/2014 1:10:32 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Kids need fats in their diet for brain development, rather the 2% water that my grandson gets.

Millennia ago kids were weaned at 3, had two advantages. Kids got necessary Fats and women did not get knocked up during the breast feeding stage.

It was estimated that Egyptian women had no more than 6 periods in their lives.

You are a Mainiac would you eat chowder made with low fat milk.

128 posted on 04/05/2014 1:43:54 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: miss marmelstein

The chicken situation in this country is disgusting. Slimy awful parts in plastic. I generally stick to Kosher.


Regular chickens are MUCH healther than organic............


129 posted on 04/05/2014 1:50:29 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Little Bill

Thanks, FRiend.


130 posted on 04/05/2014 1:56:58 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I disagree. Purdue with its awful jaundiced complexion, yeeech! Even Empire chickens are not as good as they used to be.


131 posted on 04/05/2014 2:02:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Little Bill

The Executive Inn in Seattle used to have the best clam chowder. Thick, creamy, not stingy with the clams. I k ow this is off topic, but I’m picky about clam chowder. I don’t even like Trader Joes. Ivar’s and Progresso are OK.


132 posted on 04/05/2014 2:02:39 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: yldstrk

down deep, poop and bugs are chemicals.

Nobody eats bugs of course, but they eat your food. the dark spots on organic fod are bug spit


133 posted on 04/05/2014 2:06:53 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: crazycatlady

Yes, you are right, rosemary sometimes take forever to germinate.

Oh, I am a card-carrying member of the weekly garden thread, and I have learned so much from everyone there. Thanks.


134 posted on 04/05/2014 2:07:32 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: nikos1121

Maybe we are being duped, but I will take my chances.

One thing I am leaning toward, though, is dumping grocery store meats. It costs a little more, but I am going to start using grass-fed as opposed to grain-fed beef, as I read that the fatty acids are different. I can’t remember the chemistry exactly, but it sounds similar to the difference between farmed fish and fresh-caught.

What I read about the farmed fish is that, basically, they are being fed the equivalent of junk food instead of eating what they would naturally consume.


135 posted on 04/05/2014 2:16:14 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red
Do the autolyse for both the sponge and finished dough, great improvement in flavor.
136 posted on 04/05/2014 2:17:12 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Little Bill

OK, thanks.


137 posted on 04/05/2014 2:19:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red

sometimes take forever = sometimes takes forever


138 posted on 04/05/2014 2:22:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: crazycatlady
Try this:

Two or three pounds of Steamers, more if you like.

Add to large pot with a few chopped onions, steam until open.

Shuck, reserve stock.

Fry 1/2 pound of salt pork in butter until crispy.

Add one quart of stock and bring to a boil, add clams.

Lower heat add one quart of light cream and one quart of heavy cream and 1/4 pound of butter.

Add mashed potatoes to thicken as desired, be careful add a little at a time.

Taste add salt as needed.

This is a real Down East recipe serve with oyster crackers and black pepper.

139 posted on 04/05/2014 2:45:53 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Little Bill

I never singled out dairy fat (cream) as a bad component of milk, in fact fat is good and necessary to your metabolism. Being fat is the health problem.

Eating fat does not make you fat, eating sugar and starch does.

For a long time, the FDA or Dept of Agriculture had this recommended dietary pyramid, it had a low fat requirement and lots of carbs at the foundation. The government lied to us, and now Americans look like a bunch of hogs.

I eat dairy products regularly, but milk is not a staple in my diet.

I would probably make chowdah with a splash of milk, some heavy cream and maybe some sour cream. Definitely a stick of butter.


140 posted on 04/05/2014 5:56:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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