While the seas rise in the Outer Banks and elsewhere in NC, science treads water

News and Observer ^ | 3/16/14 | Bruce Siceloff

[lafroste]

RODANTHE — Coastal geologist Stan Riggs, who tracks the ups and downs of North Carolina’s shoreline, needed a bullhorn to make himself heard above a roaring nor’easter that had toyed with the Outer Banks for two days.

He climbed down from the ridge of a DOT-built dune narrowly separating N.C. 12 from the boisterous Atlantic Ocean. A bleached house named WAVE BREAKER seemed to be stilt-walking into the surf – but, really, the island itself was slipping out from under this cottage in a shrinking subdivision called Mirlo Beach.

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[Democrat_media]

according to who government funded scientists or CNN?

Now there’s more ice at South Pole than ever (So much for global warming thawing Antarctica!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2216238/Now-theres-ice-South-Pole-So-global-warming-thawing-Antarctica.html

so where is all the water coming from if the ice is growing at the poles? no sea level rise .

[Eccl 10:2]

Matthew 7:24-27

New International Version (NIV)

The Wise and Foolish Builders

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

[fella]

My family used to vacation/camp at Nagshead and Hatteres during the 50s. One time there was a storm and the next day the word went round that the road north out of Hatteres was cut and would take 3 days to repair which didn’t bother us cause we still had a weeks more vacation to go. Found the best seashells ever for the next few days.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

They should Google “tide”..but don’t tell them it is happening a couple times a day...they’ll panic.

[mosesdapoet]

Try to fix and reinforce the pillings with concrete and the EPA will be all over their butt. What they might be able to do with this is lower and move the structure inland and relocate it. Even doing this is going involve reams (500 sheets) of paperwork in dollars and permits.

[Jack Hydrazine]

And the ice at the North Pole is 60% above average.

Like I said, the rise has been measure at only 0.5mm per year.

Do you realize how little that is?

[Jack Hydrazine]

Between 1870 and 2004, global average sea levels rose 195 mm (7.7 in), 1.46 mm (0.057 in) per year.[5] From 1950 to 2009, measurements show an average annual rise in sea level of 1.7 ± 0.3 mm per year, with satellite data showing a rise of 3.3 ± 0.4 mm per year from 1993 to 2009,[6] a faster rate of increase than previously estimated.[7] It is unclear whether the increased rate reflects an increase in the underlying long-term trend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise

[Democrat_media]

that’s a little but world wide that is a lot of water , so where is it coming from if true? consider the source .

[tophat9000]

Here is the problem...I Do believe in science and in my business engineering and evermore in failure and troubleshooting analysis. ..I use scientific principles ever dam day..

The problem is the global warming purveyors ..99 percent of them are not practicing any kind of science there's simply regurgitating what someone told them..

It the Church of global warming and its member..

A priest has told the congregation what their sin is (co2 ) and their punishment for the sin is ( a hot hell on earth) and what then must sacrifice (their prosperity and freedom) to appease Gaia. And all the member of this new Eco religion scream “Heretic! Burn them! “ at anybody the questions them.

Guess what I'm a heretic because I have read and do practice from the Book of Science...I don not just follow what the priest tell me...guess that would make me a Science Protestant

[al baby]

It could also be land levls are sinking

[Democrat_media]

I don’t buy any of that crap

it’s getting colder,ice at poles is increasing which would cause a lowering of sea levels if anything.

coldest winter ever imo

where is water coming from if sea levels are rising as ice is increasing?

[pgkdan]

It’s called erosion.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Land around the Great Lakes is rising, left over from the weight of the ice ten thousand years ago.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Where is it coming from exactly? Don’t know. But I have a theory.

From within the Earth.

Remember the Flood story?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/tools/flood-waters.asp

In telling us about the world-changing Flood in the days of Noah, the Bible gives us much information about where the waters came from and where they went. The sources of the water are given in Genesis 7:11 as “the fountains of the great deep” and the “windows of heaven.”

The “fountains of the great deep” are mentioned before the “windows of heaven,” indicating either relative importance or the order of events.

What are the “fountains of the great deep?” This phrase is used only in Genesis 7:11. “Fountains of the deep” is used in Genesis 8:2, where it clearly refers to the same thing, and Proverbs 8:28, where the precise meaning is not clear. “The great deep” is used three other times: Isaiah 51:10, where it clearly refers to the ocean; Amos 7:4, where God’s fire of judgement is said to dry up the great deep, probably the oceans; and Psalm 36:6 where it is used metaphorically of the depth of God’s justice/judgement. “The deep” is used more often, and usually refers to the oceans (e.g., Genesis 1:2; Job 38:30, 41:32; Psalm 42:7, 104:6; Isaiah 51:10, 63:13; Ezekiel 26:19; Jonah 2:3), but sometimes to subterranean sources of water (Ezekiel 31:4, 15). The Hebrew word (mayan) translated “fountains” means “fountain, spring, well.”

So, the “fountains of the great deep” are probably oceanic or possibly subterranean sources of water. In the context of the flood account, it could mean both.

If the fountains of the great deep were the major source of the waters, then they must have been a huge source of water. Some have suggested that when God made the dry land appear from under the waters on the third day of creation, some of the water that covered the earth became trapped underneath and within the dry land.2

Genesis 7:11 says that on the day the flood began, there was a “breaking up” of the fountains, which implies a release of the water, possibly through large fissures in the ground or in the sea floor. The waters that had been held back burst forth with catastrophic consequences.

There are many volcanic rocks interspersed between the fossil layers in the rock record—layers that were obviously deposited during Noah’s flood. So it is quite plausible that these fountains of the great deep involved a series of volcanic eruptions with prodigious amounts of water bursting up through the ground. It is interesting that up to 70 percent or more of what comes out of volcanoes today is water, often in the form of steam.

In their catastrophic plate tectonics model for the flood, Austin et al. have proposed that at the onset of the flood, the ocean floor rapidly lifted up to 6,500 feet (2,000 meters) due to an increase in temperature as horizontal movement of the tectonic plates accelerated.3 This would spill the seawater onto the land and cause massive flooding—perhaps what is aptly described as the breaking up of the “fountains of the great deep.”

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I want a simple answer. .is water rising or the land sinking? A survey either old school or gps will tell you... you give me that first answer and if the water is rising then we will talk why

Well surveyed tidal gauges have 100 year plus histories and provide reliable measures of the sea level history. Sea levels have risen at most five inches since the 1970's, not an insignificant amount, but far too little to have any of the dramatic effects being ascribed to them.

[fieldmarshaldj]

It says it’s for rent. I’ll bet we could get a sweet deal on this little honey !

[Jack Hydrazine]

So you think all of those sea level measuring instruments have been lying since modern measurements in the late 1800s?

[rstrahan]

The Gulf Coast in Texas and Louisiana has been subsiding for decades. Parts of Baytown have sunk feet, ocean levels relatively constant.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Keep in mind that before the last ice age ended sea level was about 500 feet lower than it is today. That’s about where the edge of the shelf of each continent.

[smokingfrog]

When calculating the background rate of relative sea-level rise, it is necessary to remove the modern component, as this will overestimate the background rate due to the sea-level rise experienced during the 20th century (~0.2 – 0.3 m along the US Atlantic coast).

14 Outer Banks, North Carolina 1.0 ± 0.1 N/A Horton et al.; 2009 Cinquemani et al., 1982

15 Beaufort, North Carolina 0.7 ± 0.1 N/A Horton et al. 2009; Cinquemani et al., 1982; Spaur and Snyder, 1999

16 Wilmington, North Carolina 0.8 ± 0.3 N/A Cinquemani et al., 1982